The Bespoke Shoes Thread

[charlesford786]

Bespoke process means after measurements are taken…a wooden model of the clients feet need to be carved from wood and then worked by hand / file / rasp…

Then leather is hand stretched over that wooden last and nailed on…layer by layer. Everything is hand stitched…And the soles and heels are carved by hand as well.

Look at this video as an example of the process…and this does not include the measuring / last making process.

Makers will also have a long backlog of clients waiting for shoes to be made…

Ok, now I get the full Idea of what 'Bespoke' means. Well, I've been thinking for the past 2 hrs that how about I give my father a full bespoke experience as a surprise! Cause otherwise it's just too tedious to arrange a full bespoke article without letting him get a whiff of what's going on.

 

[charlesford786]

You will not be able to take the needed measurements. Maybe you could find someone who will do the same look made to measure on an off the shelf last.

Yh, I was just starting to realize it after I saw the video that Mr. "masugu" sent me. Its quite a skilled person job and well I have zero essence of Newton's Soul in me to get those measurements!

 

[charlesford786]

Yes

This…

Bespoke isn’t the solution here. Unless your Dad would like a gift of the entire bespoke experience…A “surprise” will require other means.

That is what I'm considering now. You my guy have helped me a lot understanding a 'Bespoke Experience' and for that I'm grateful to you.

 

[masugu]

Yes

That is what I'm considering now. You my guy have helped me a lot understanding a 'Bespoke Experience' and for that I'm grateful to you.

Just so you don’t faint dead away when you find out the cost…Are you aware that a pair if bespoke shoes created in the manner above will set you back anywhere from $4,000 - $10,000 USD depending on materials? Ie skins such as Alligator / Crocodile get pretty expensive with calf leather on the lower end of the scale.

 

[marlinspike]

Just so you don’t faint dead away when you find out the cost…Are you aware that a pair if bespoke shoes created in the manner above will set you back anywhere from $4,000 - $10,000 USD depending on materials? Ie skins such as Alligator / Crocodile get pretty expensive with calf leather on the lower end of the scale.

Maftei, Materna, Jan Kielman, they aren't all $4k per pair.

 

[masugu]

Maftei, Materna, Jan Kielman, they aren't all $4k per pair.

Sure. Just gave him a ballpark range - not all inclusive

 

[schteekay]

Maftei, Materna, Jan Kielman, they aren't all $4k per pair.

I honestly don't think they could really reproduce a shoe like this. At least not from what I've seen from their work.

 

[marlinspike]

Isn't it just Horween Hatch Grain?
NM, I missed that the OP said it was lama.

Replying to myself here now that I see the OP said it was lama, Carmina says lama is just a type of tumbled calf. Anybody know specifically what leather this is?

 

[epsilon22]

Replying to myself here now that I see the OP said it was lama, Carmina says lama is just a type of tumbled calf. Anybody know specifically what leather this is?

This has been discussed before, actual llama leather is a thing, but some makers may refer to textured calf as llama grain too.

The Bespoke Shoes Thread

All this time I thought it was actual llama. Examples of llama I've seen on IG. Akiratani's llama is actually shrunken calf? Same with Perticone (Japanese maker in Italy)? https://www.iniziativeconciarieassociate.it/ilveliero_lama-calf/

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The Bespoke Shoes Thread

Is that rubber sole stitched on or glued on? Surely it would be glued on, those small stitches would be so difficult to take through to the rubber. The Commando soles are cemented. You cannot stitch heavy rubber soles by hand. Leather and rubber act differently. You use your awl, poke a...

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The Bespoke Shoes Thread

Is that rubber sole stitched on or glued on? Surely it would be glued on, those small stitches would be so difficult to take through to the rubber. The Commando soles are cemented. You cannot stitch heavy rubber soles by hand. Leather and rubber act differently. You use your awl, poke a...

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[bengal-stripe]

These are bespoke, so they will cost you much time and money (and it wouldn't be a surprise). Never seen something similar as ready to wear.

https://www.edwardgreen.com/shop/-341102.html

Voilà! Ecco! Mid Vergniegen!!!

 

[marlinspike]

This has been discussed before, actual llama leather is a thing, but some makers may refer to textured calf as llama grain too.

The Bespoke Shoes Thread

All this time I thought it was actual llama. Examples of llama I've seen on IG. Akiratani's llama is actually shrunken calf? Same with Perticone (Japanese maker in Italy)? https://www.iniziativeconciarieassociate.it/ilveliero_lama-calf/

www.styleforum.net

The Bespoke Shoes Thread

Is that rubber sole stitched on or glued on? Surely it would be glued on, those small stitches would be so difficult to take through to the rubber. The Commando soles are cemented. You cannot stitch heavy rubber soles by hand. Leather and rubber act differently. You use your awl, poke a...

www.styleforum.net

The Bespoke Shoes Thread

Is that rubber sole stitched on or glued on? Surely it would be glued on, those small stitches would be so difficult to take through to the rubber. The Commando soles are cemented. You cannot stitch heavy rubber soles by hand. Leather and rubber act differently. You use your awl, poke a...

www.styleforum.net

Llama (actual llama) do in terms of holding its shape and longevity? I assume the grain is naturally so it remains equally pronounced even at the heel and toe? Does it take a good shine?

 

[soender]

Lovely idea for a present. Pop into Crockett and Jones, on Rue de Namur in Brussels, and ask to see this pair. Could be an option. For a lower price level, there is also this pair from Carmina.

 

[epsilon22]

Llama (actual llama) do in terms of holding its shape and longevity? I assume the grain is naturally so it remains equally pronounced even at the heel and toe? Does it take a good shine?

Can't comment on these questions as I don't have any experience with llama leather yet. Maybe try tagging the people who wrote those replies I quoted instead?

 

[masugu]

All this talk of Llamas..

I had to post this:

 

[charlesford786]

Just so you don’t faint dead away when you find out the cost…Are you aware that a pair if bespoke shoes created in the manner above will set you back anywhere from $4,000 - $10,000 USD depending on materials? Ie skins such as Alligator / Crocodile get pretty expensive with calf leather on the lower end of the scale.

OH don't worry about that, I had a range far beyond this point in mind! Like I said, I saved up quite a lot and really money isn't an issue for me when it comes to concerning my parents. I had thought that If i fall short, I'll borrow some cause nothing matters to me more than my parents happiness!