SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[hdub]

Does anyone have any experience with their MTO trousers? I’ve just had a pair of trousers in 36 Contemporary delivered. I went larger in the waist so I could get a wide enough thigh, and while the thigh is pretty good on its own, I find the taper too aggressive. It hugs my calf too much which in turn tugs the cloth too close to my thigh.

MTO offers a “relaxed” fit that I’ve never seen in their OTR offerings. Any ideas if that’s more what I’m looking for? I can’t adjust the knee in their interface, but I assume adjusting the hem to be wider would necessitate a wider knee. I’ve attached a couple of pictures with the pair I just got if anyone has any ideas. Or could a tailor let the knee down out on these?

Thank you all!

 

[DonRaphael]

Does anyone have any experience with their MTO trousers? I’ve just had a pair of trousers in 36 Contemporary delivered. I went larger in the waist so I could get a wide enough thigh, and while the thigh is pretty good on its own, I find the taper too aggressive. It hugs my calf too much which in turn tugs the cloth too close to my thigh.

MTO offers a “relaxed” fit that I’ve never seen in their OTR offerings. Any ideas if that’s more what I’m looking for? I can’t adjust the knee in their interface, but I assume adjusting the hem to be wider would necessitate a wider knee. I’ve attached a couple of pictures with the pair I just got if anyone has any ideas. Or could a tailor let the knee down out on these?

Thank you all!

You need to widen the leg opening since the tapering depends on the thigh and leg opening width that you provide. If you want an asymmetrical tapering you'd have to contact them and ask if it's possible to provide specific knee width measurements which they can accommodate.

I experienced the same issue as you and have had my trousers adjusted to accommodate for a more relaxed fit.

Size 33 cont
Thigh width 28,6"
Leg opening 17,8"

... which also happens to be the golden ratio.

 

[hdub]

You need to widen the leg opening since the tapering depends on the thigh and leg opening width that you provide. If you want an asymmetrical tapering you'd have to contact them and ask if it's possible to provide specific knee width measurements which they can accommodate.

I experienced the same issue as you and have had my trousers adjusted to accommodate for a more relaxed fit.

Size 33 cont
Thigh width 28,6"
Leg opening 17,8"

... which also happens to be the golden ratio.

Much appreciated! I have several pairs from Luxire that are perfect, so I’ll copy those measurements over to MTO at Spier and Mackay. I just wanted to try S&M because, frankly, their prices are cheaper for MTO with certain fabrics compared to Luxire.

 

[DonRaphael]

Much appreciated! I have several pairs from Luxire that are perfect, so I’ll copy those measurements over to MTO at Spier and Mackay. I just wanted to try S&M because, frankly, their prices are cheaper for MTO with certain fabrics compared to Luxire.

Yep, this is the route I went as well. Mix and match between the two affiliate vendors.

 

[WoolyLamb]

You need to widen the leg opening since the tapering depends on the thigh and leg opening width that you provide. If you want an asymmetrical tapering you'd have to contact them and ask if it's possible to provide specific knee width measurements which they can accommodate.

I experienced the same issue as you and have had my trousers adjusted to accommodate for a more relaxed fit.

Size 33 cont
Thigh width 28,6"
Leg opening 17,8"

... which also happens to be the golden ratio.

I had been meaning to ask you for this info. We are so close in size and I am just a little bit bigger.

 

[NORE]

This was probably covered already, but what, if any, difference is there with suits with the red lining and ones with the black lining? I'm seeing some lighter weight stuff on sale but don't want to be going backwards in terms of quality.

Bump, bc I need to know.

 

[spacenegroes]

Crossposting from the Overcoat thread:

After all the umming and ahhing, plenty of time spent on the Cordings website, I went with the S&M Liberty Coat in the end. Very happy with it. Yes, it could be a bit longer, and the sleeves could be another inch longer, but overall I can't imagine a better option for $600.

I almost went with the Ulster, until on a whim I checked with S&M CS and they let me know that their Ulster doesn't button up all the way (as in, fold the lapels straight and treat it like a 19th century coat).

Hey all, I've moved to a cold place recently and need a winter overcoat. Really never paid much attention to them before, so I'm not sure what style really gives me what I want. Hoping for some advice.

• I'm hoping to mostly wear it open/unbuttoned, with the collar up (but obviously sometimes will have to close it up) as I really love the look of a big upright collar.
• I never wear suits, only a few times a year, and sport coats also infrequently. So most of the time I'll be wearing it over chunky wool sweaters in earth tones, flecked/donegal, and textured navy. Would want to be able to wear it with jeans, corduroy trousers, wool trousers. As such, I'm looking for something more casual.
• I'm probably wanting a drapier cut rather than a slim fit. Something that kind of has that big flowy feel, sort of like what trenches do, rather than a refined minimalist with straight lines. (Hence also wanting to wear it mostly open.)

S&M just came out with a bunch for the season. Intrigued by the Ulster, the Liberty Coat (what is a liberty coat anyway? I couldn't google it), and the Polo (though I'm worried the roped shoulders make it look too formal). What would suit my preferences above the best?

 

[Raw05]

Lost my first ever Spier purchase (grey flannel slacks, Oct 2020) to the passage of time yesterday. Pretty big tear in the seat, though in a way that wasn't too visible at least. Wished I could have gotten a few more years from them, but thinking about it it's pretty good overall, was the first pair of slacks I bought and they saw a lot of use (probably averaging at least twice a week between October and April the last 4 years). Replaced them, and pants inflation has hit hard.

 

[WoolyLamb]

Lost my first ever Spier purchase (grey flannel slacks, Oct 2020) to the passage of time yesterday. Pretty big tear in the seat, though in a way that wasn't too visible at least. Wished I could have gotten a few more years from them, but thinking about it it's pretty good overall, was the first pair of slacks I bought and they saw a lot of use (probably averaging at least twice a week between October and April the last 4 years). Replaced them, and pants inflation has hit hard.

Hope you got the fox flannel suit because it is stellar.

 

[NORE]

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Lost my first ever Spier purchase (grey flannel slacks, Oct 2020) to the passage of time yesterday. Pretty big tear in the seat, though in a way that wasn't too visible at least. Wished I could have gotten a few more years from them, but thinking about it it's pretty good overall, was the first pair of slacks I bought and they saw a lot of use (probably averaging at least twice a week between October and April the last 4 years). Replaced them, and pants inflation has hit hard.

I feel your pain. I check the crotch of my flannels each time I disrobe, fearing the worst.

 

[Raw05]

Hope you got the fox flannel suit because it is stellar.

Was incredibly tempted by the double-breasted, it's basically my ideal grey flannel suit, but I just can't justify another suit right now, either financially or (perhaps more importantly) wardrobe-wise.

 

[KlarkKent]

Hope you got the fox flannel suit because it is stellar.

Did you get the grey one? If so do you have pics?

 

[WoolyLamb]

Did you get the grey one? If so do you have pics?

I got the grey.

 

[KlarkKent]

Thank you. As is often the case it looks darker in real life then on the model pics.

 

[KlarkKent]

I got the grey. View attachment 2321117 View attachment 2321119 View attachment 2321121

Also. That's a great tie. Where's it from?