SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[classicoutfits]

I would think this is close enough that a tailor can work with it to get it dialed in. I realize as well as anyone that's annoying when you drop a decent amount of money on something then have to pay more to have a tailor edit it, but it appears to my untrained eye it should be pretty easy for them just find one that is reputable.

Everyone is different, some people can fit a particular brand of suit mostly right off the rack, some can with one brand but not another and some just pretty much can't with any brand and they all need tailoring. I like spier quality at their price point but it definitely does get frustrating that I can't just walk into a store and try different sizes on because when you consider the chest size, then S, R and L then contemporary vs slim you have enough combinations that it's hard to know how each one compares to the other. But you can't just keep ordering and returning either.

this is a great point you are making, there are many online stores I am interested in trying out, but the lack of in person try on combined with the potential tailoring costs and my own personality of not liking frequent returns have made spier, a brand that I have bought many times from the last years, my safe go to store. having said that, if brands offer brick and mortar locations, it will drive up costs. although I am sure some brands can afford doing so while keeping prices the same.

 

[Rhodia]

A couple have showed up.

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Resurrecting this post to see if anyone would like to post fit pictures of this coat.

 

[MrFingers]

I think I’ve had this MTO sc for 2 years now, finally wearing it lol

 

[ericgereghty]

The hodgepodge popularity of the Fox flannels is quite interesting. Spier either wildly understocked trousers, or those suckers all sold out, whereas suiting (grey especially) is largely still there.

I can't whine too much (~$900 RTW SM suit is a hard no for me), but would have been curious to try the suit out at a lower discount. Alas, ****** doesn't have a chance of making a 40-42 waist work

 

[classicoutfits]

Burgundy Merino Chunky Shawl Collar Cardigan | SPIER & MACKAY

Spier & Mackay

www.spierandmackay.com

does anyone know how these sleeves length are measured? according to the chart, a size medium 40-42 the sleeves are 27.2 which seems too long if measured from the sleeve head and too short from the neck

would you get same as sport coat size?

 

[Hankmctank]

Burgundy Merino Chunky Shawl Collar Cardigan | SPIER & MACKAY

Spier & Mackay

www.spierandmackay.com

does anyone know how these sleeves length are measured? according to the chart, a size medium 40-42 the sleeves are 27.2 which seems too long if measured from the sleeve head and too short from the neck

would you get same as sport coat size?

Edit.
My mock neck full zip is same back length and shoulder shape. measurements here have arm length a bit more detailed.

Dark Brown - Mockneck Zip| SPIER & MACKAY

Spier & Mackay

www.spierandmackay.com

If I were getting that shawl cardigan. I’d get my same size in xl

 

[Mr October]

I would think this is close enough that a tailor can work with it to get it dialed in. I realize as well as anyone that's annoying when you drop a decent amount of money on something then have to pay more to have a tailor edit it, but it appears to my untrained eye it should be pretty easy for them just find one that is reputable.

Everyone is different, some people can fit a particular brand of suit mostly right off the rack, some can with one brand but not another and some just pretty much can't with any brand and they all need tailoring. I like spier quality at their price point but it definitely does get frustrating that I can't just walk into a store and try different sizes on because when you consider the chest size, then S, R and L then contemporary vs slim you have enough combinations that it's hard to know how each one compares to the other. But you can't just keep ordering and returning either.

Yeah, I think I'm close enough that at this point tailoring is the answer, not ordering and returning.

 

[NORE]

The hodgepodge popularity of the Fox flannels is quite interesting. Spier either wildly understocked trousers, or those suckers all sold out, whereas suiting (grey especially) is largely still there.

I can't whine too much (~$900 RTW SM suit is a hard no for me), but would have been curious to try the suit out at a lower discount. Alas, ****** doesn't have a chance of making a 40-42 waist work

Where would your roughly 900 bux go, suit wise? 🤔

 

[MrFingers]

Another MTO that I’m wearing for the first time.

 

[ericgereghty]

Where would your roughly 900 bux go, suit wise? 🤔

I'd rather spend up to 2x for something like Ring Jacket from The Armoury, if going RTW.

I love Spier for the value proposition it offers. At a certain level, and I would consider ~$1100 (cost inclusive of needed alternations) above that level, it ceases to become a value, and I will happily (well, more happily...I'm still cheap lol) pay a greater premium for a superior product.

Not to say SM was gouging or anything with their pricing. Fox is a premium fabric, both in quality and price. It was just a steeper cost than I was willing to pay, and I don't think I was alone in that thinking

 

[JohnE]

Anyone know if there is a difference between last season long sleeve shirt collar cotton polos and current run?

Ask the expert @mossrockss

 

[tmckay2]

I'd rather spend up to 2x for something like Ring Jacket from The Armoury, if going RTW.

I love Spier for the value proposition it offers. At a certain level, and I would consider ~$1100 (cost inclusive of needed alternations) above that level, it ceases to become a value, and I will happily (well, more happily...I'm still cheap lol) a greater premium for a superior product.

Not to say SM was gouging or anything with their pricing. Fox is a premium fabric, both in quality and price. It was just a steeper cost than I was willing to pay, and I don't think I was alone in that thinking

I would imagine the majority would agree with your assessment. Spier's major draw isn't raw quality over competitors, its the compromise between price, quality and styles. Most of us arent wearing suits daily and even if they are they usually just need to be workable quality suits nothing crazy. Spier is great for that (assuming of course they have stock). But I don't doubt that when you start creeping into the more expensive options whether it be fabrics or bells and whistles, the majority of the clientele will fall off.

I imagine the tricky thing for spier is trying to balance that. You want to have a wide variety and plenty of options including at the higher end, but knowing you aren't likely to sell as many of those items. Keep in mind investing too much of their capital into the higher end can sometimes affect the lower and mid grade prices too simply because they need it to be financial viable to offer the products that sell less.

 

[NORE]

I'd rather spend up to 2x for something like Ring Jacket from The Armoury, if going RTW.

I love Spier for the value proposition it offers. At a certain level, and I would consider ~$1100 (cost inclusive of needed alternations) above that level, it ceases to become a value, and I will happily (well, more happily...I'm still cheap lol) a greater premium for a superior product.

Not to say SM was gouging or anything with their pricing. Fox is a premium fabric, both in quality and price. It was just a steeper cost than I was willing to pay, and I don't think I was alone in that thinking

No, I get that 100%. Sound reasoning. I looked at the Fox offerings and thought, "nah, VBC'll do. Besides, do I really need a full canvass?" That is unless FOX is more resistant to crotch burnouts.

 

[NORE]

I would imagine the majority would agree with your assessment. Spier's major draw isn't raw quality over competitors, its the compromise between price, quality and styles. Most of us arent wearing suits daily and even if they are they usually just need to be workable quality suits nothing crazy. Spier is great for that (assuming of course they have stock). But I don't doubt that when you start creeping into the more expensive options whether it be fabrics or bells and whistles, the majority of the clientele will fall off.

I imagine the tricky thing for spier is trying to balance that. You want to have a wide variety and plenty of options including at the higher end, but knowing you aren't likely to sell as many of those items. Keep in mind investing too much of their capital into the higher end can sometimes affect the lower and mid grade prices too simply because they need it to be financial viable to offer the products that sell less.

Pssssh, forget the snobbery, I'm just happy they tell me the weight and include mill labels 😅

 

[classicoutfits]

I would imagine the majority would agree with your assessment. Spier's major draw isn't raw quality over competitors, its the compromise between price, quality and styles. Most of us arent wearing suits daily and even if they are they usually just need to be workable quality suits nothing crazy. Spier is great for that (assuming of course they have stock). But I don't doubt that when you start creeping into the more expensive options whether it be fabrics or bells and whistles, the majority of the clientele will fall off.

I imagine the tricky thing for spier is trying to balance that. You want to have a wide variety and plenty of options including at the higher end, but knowing you aren't likely to sell as many of those items. Keep in mind investing too much of their capital into the higher end can sometimes affect the lower and mid grade prices too simply because they need it to be financial viable to offer the products that sell less.

I agree with you, I get ton of compliments for Spier clothing. I enjoy knowing the mill, fabric and some of the details they offer. What else in quality and style are you referring to? I have experimented with MTM from established brands costing 1000$ and tbh Spier fitted me better, yes it was full canvas and functional buttons but not sure that is really important for me anymore. I feel like apart from the classic menswear community, 90% of people can't tell the advantages. I wear suits or sport coats everyday and I would rather have several 400-500 garments than a handful 1000-3000. Am I mistaken?