SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[bicycleradical]

Perfectly suited to your avatar and handle!

The bicycles sold me on the shirt!

 

[stuffedsuperdud]

Any idea if it's an onerous or expensive of a task it is for a tailor to reduce the length? I like the fabric but last year I passed on it b/c it's too long for me and the coat coming down close to my ankle is not my style.

Since it's a double breasted, with squared off corners, it would theoretically be easy for a tailor to shorten it all around, i.e. no need to reshape the front quarters. However, as with any shortening job, it's important to have them pin it up and look at how the lapels, buttons, and pockets are balanced, e.g. you don't want the pockets to appear too close to the to the hem.

 

[2942]

Upcoming Prince of Wales three piece in Hardy Minnis.

I’ve been waiting for something like this for some time but am kind of disappointed in the choice of buttons. I wish they’d gone with something that would go well with both brown and black.

 

[taargus_taargus]

Lanificio Bottoli. Thoughts on the quality of the fabrics?

 

[stuffedsuperdud]

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Upcoming Prince of Wales three piece in Hardy Minnis.

I’ve been waiting for something like this for some time but am kind of disappointed in the choice of buttons. I wish they’d gone with something that would go well with both brown and black.

I actually really like how they did this. When you say brown and black, do you mean shoes? Which is the color that it might not go with? I would be a touch hesitant to wear this suit with black shoes anyway, since the pattern and the texture together makes it a bit more casual than, say, a proper worsted, or a solid gray flannel.

 

[BlueSteel]

I actually really like how they did this. When you say brown and black, do you mean shoes? Which is the color that it might not go with? I would be a touch hesitant to wear this suit with black shoes anyway, since the pattern and the texture together makes it a bit more casual than, say, a proper worsted, or a solid gray flannel.

Not to speak for 2942, but I think I see his point.

The buttons appear to be a mid-brown (even on the lighter side) despite the "gray" POW featuring what looks like black cross-hatching. I do find with gray items that feature black prominently in the pattern that you can often wear them equally well with brown or black shoes/boots.

But it helps a lot with that versatility if the buttons are more in-between...say a very dark brown or char-brown, if horn is being used. When the buttons are lighter brown, the choice of black shoes/boots seems more odd.

 

[JTrent82]

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Upcoming Prince of Wales three piece in Hardy Minnis.

I’ve been waiting for something like this for some time but am kind of disappointed in the choice of buttons. I wish they’d gone with something that would go well with both brown and black.

Replacing buttons is cheap and easy.

 

[ericgereghty]

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Upcoming Prince of Wales three piece in Hardy Minnis.

I’ve been waiting for something like this for some time but am kind of disappointed in the choice of buttons. I wish they’d gone with something that would go well with both brown and black.

I'm just glad somebody decided they liked jetted pockets...

 

[CLH03]

Replacing buttons is cheap and easy.

Second this. Easy to see on yourself actually, if you really wanted to.

 

[2942]

I actually really like how they did this. When you say brown and black, do you mean shoes? Which is the color that it might not go with? I would be a touch hesitant to wear this suit with black shoes anyway, since the pattern and the texture together makes it a bit more casual than, say, a proper worsted, or a solid gray flannel.

Yes, shoes. It may be a sartorial faux pas but, in my eye, the suit goes equally well with black shoes (loafers, ideally). I would opt for something like one of these (all from SS custom options):

Replacing buttons is cheap and easy.

You are right, but that's not the point.

I'm just glad somebody decided they liked jetted pockets...

Same. I like how unobtrusive they are.

 

[stuffedsuperdud]

Not to speak for 2942, but I think I see his point.

The buttons appear to be a mid-brown (even on the lighter side) despite the "gray" POW featuring what looks like black cross-hatching. I do find with gray items that feature black prominently in the pattern that you can often wear them equally well with brown or black shoes/boots.

But it helps a lot with that versatility if the buttons are more in-between...say a very dark brown or char-brown, if horn is being used. When the buttons are lighter brown, the choice of black shoes/boots seems more odd.

Mmm understood and I see it now. It hasn't ever occurred to me because with a suit like this I'd default to something like tobacco suede NSTs or my brown Fifth Streets, nothing black.

I already have a plain gray/black glen plaid suit from a long time ago before I knew about #menswear (Men's Wearhouse, Joseph Abboud MiUSA lol) so I'm probably going to pass on this one, esp. given my recent fail with an SM RTW vest in what was supposed to be my size, but I was actually thinking, if they could put a windowpane on top using hte same green as the backdrop of this pic (Racing green??) i'd definitely give it a shot.

Marginally relevant: can someone please straighten out the terminology for me? Derek mentioned this once but I cannot find the thread. Spier is calling it POW but I thought POW was only if this also had the windowpane, and that without one it was just glen plaid or perhaps glen urquhart? Or is it only PoW when it is a specific color, the one Albert liked? What about when there's no windowpane, but the edges of the plaid pattern are a different color, e.g. the suit above but with some blue mixed in?

Plz explain. Also, it continues to boggle my mind that a bunch of goons in the 1840s who believed in ghosts and leeches and using the Thames as a toilet was able to put all this together on an Industrial Revolution era loom, while I lack the spatial perception to make the five minute commute to work without GPS.

 

[JTrent82]

You are right, but that's not the point.

I mean if your point is just criticizing Spier's choice of buttons then yes I agree. But if you really love the suit other than this small detail, it can be easily altered.

 

[Jamesbond1]

Looks exactly like an Ulster coat from last winter 🙂

Last year it was from Spier....this year it is from Mackay!

 

[classicoutfits]

Lanificio Bottoli. Thoughts on the quality of the fabrics?

I have this brown pow and I like the colors and quality. I couldn’t tell quality difference between this and other summer fabrics I have from vbc and drago. Having said that, I pay more attention and have better experience in colors and patterns so others may have different take on Bottolli

 

[Jamesbond1]

I have this brown pow and I like the colors and quality. I couldn’t tell quality difference between this and other summer fabrics I have from vbc and drago. Having said that, I pay more attention and have better experience in colors and patterns so others may have different take on Bottolli

Drago, Bottoli, VBC are all similar but different. For the price point here there is not much to nitpick.

Now if that VBC is sold with a Drapers tag then yes but at that price point you will not be on this Spier or Mackay thread!