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These Behemoths just came up via Panta's email list: handmade in Hungary by Heinrich Dinkelacker.

Triple oak bark leather soles, Horween shell cordovan uppers, built to last a fallout. Also for non-preppers.

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If the insole is that narrow in the waist it may not be fully functional or healthy for the foot, esp. if it's RTW..


If all that overhang is solely supported by a soft upper leather, than it might be rather precariously.

But if the foundations are right, there shouldn't be any problems.

If you do an "insole up in waist"

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or a heel stiffener extended on the medial side (or even both sides)

704506


This will divert the stresses, rather like the flying buttresses in Gothic architecture.

(I have no idea, whether this was done in the pictured shoe.)
 

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It's expert information like that above that brought me to this forum, and p0rn like that below that makes it so damaging!

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Outstanding! I love this!
 
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They truly are. Cravate_Noire, where were these from, and where were the womes shoes from? Same place?


They are from different makers. All my shoes with such an extremely shaped waist are bespoke, I dislike purely cosmetic waist treatments of that type (you can add upp material and then simply carve it down to have a similar efffect, at least visually, some rtw makers have been doing this). They are among the most comfortable and supportive shoes I have, but as it was said before I also think that it would be impossible to find a well fitting rtw shoes wich such an extreme shape. This is a well used and already once resoled pair btw. and I had now problems with the 'overhanging' parts around the waist at all.
 

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These Behemoths just came up via Panta's email list: handmade in Hungary by Heinrich Dinkelacker.

Triple oak bark leather soles, Horween shell cordovan uppers, built to last a fallout. Also for non-preppers.

HD1-3T.jpg


wow
 

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If all that overhang is solely supported by a soft upper leather, than it might be rather precariously.

But if the foundations are right, there shouldn't be any problems.

If you do an "insole up in waist"

704505


or a heel stiffener extended on the medial side (or even both sides)

704506


This will divert the stresses, rather like the flying buttresses in Gothic architecture.

(I have no idea, whether this was done in the pictured shoe.)


You're absolutely correct. But, first, I'd like to hear of the RTW manufacturer that does either the arch support waist insole or the extended heel stiffener. Or even midliners (which might also bolster the waist).

Beyond that, my concern is that when a person wears the shoes in certain circumstances...say getting into or out of an automobile or if they step on the edge of a curb wrong...the shoe can roll a bit and the vamp will be exposed to abrasion simply because the insole is stiff and hard and the insole being proud of the outsole, with the weight of the body behind it, makes the vamp vulnerable.

You don't see it often in contemporary footwear because this kind of waist is relatively rare but we used to see it all the time on riding boots with improperly cut waists. The stirrup would rub a hole in the vamp.
 

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These Behemoths just came up via Panta's email list: handmade in Hungary by Heinrich Dinkelacker.

Triple oak bark leather soles, Horween shell cordovan uppers, built to last a fallout. Also for non-preppers.

HD1-3T.jpg


Great shoe!

I think those could even survive the swedish winter...and if that isn´t proof of quality, i don´t know what is :D
 
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These Behemoths just came up via Panta's email list: handmade in Hungary by Heinrich Dinkelacker.

Triple oak bark leather soles, Horween shell cordovan uppers, built to last a fallout. Also for non-preppers.

HD1-3T.jpg
Sweet looking shoes.
 

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But, first, I'd like to hear of the RTW manufacturer that does either the arch support waist insole or the extended heel stiffener. Or even midliners (which might also bolster the waist).

I don't think that Bengal Stripe was implying that this was the norm for RTW makers, he pointed out the techniques how to stabilise the waist.
 

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