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Maybe I am the ignorant one here: I assumed oz measurement listed in the site is per yard, but then I converted the 28oz of the ulster to gsm and, if it is 28/yard, that makes it 950gsm, which is like unreal heavy. So heavy, in fact, I suddenly wondered if I was wrong in assuming that the measurement is oz/yard.



If it is measured in oz/yard, then 23oz/yard is 780gsm; in my experience, most of the overcoating billed at heavyweight these days will be around 700-750gsm, so it seems like this would still be on the heavy end of the spectrum.


From personal experience, I have the tielocken in Bedford cord, and, at 22oz, it takes me deep into January and February here in Montreal without much fuss, as long as I wear a midlayer (e.g a tweed or flannel sportscoat or a sweater), scarf, hat, and gloves. As does my balmacaan and duffle coat. Of course, the coat and a t shirt might not do the job sure, but one of the chief joys in winter lies in layering, imo.
 
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From personal experience, I have the tielocken in Bedford cord, and, at 22oz, it takes me deep into January and February here in Montreal without much fuss, as long as I wear a midlayer (sports coat or sweater), scarf, hat, and gloves. As does my balmacaan and duffle coat.it might not do the job without the layers, but the joy of winter lies in layering.

The Bedford cord (Bedcord why is it not called by now) we used for the tielocken is about the same weight as the hopsack of the British warm (Bwarm) but a good deal thicker and fluffier.

The yarn was merino so it has that inherent warm to it, whereas the hopsack is British sheep wool and by nature more coarse: it lacks the fuzzy topcoat that the merino and other soft lambswool textiles bring to the table on a cold winter day.
 

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A balmacaan in the mid-weight undyed wool used in the British Warm would be fantastic. Just wanted to throw that out into the universe 🙂

Always worth throwing these things out!

I doubt we'll use that particular cloth for the balmacaan, but there's a fair chance we'll try out the balmacaan in Herdwick tweed sooner or later.
 

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Always worth throwing these things out!

I doubt we'll use that particular cloth for the balmacaan, but there's a fair chance we'll try out the balmacaan in Herdwick tweed sooner or later.
Dang. I’m going to start building up the old SEH Kelly coat fund for if and when that day comes.
 

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Maybe I am the ignorant one here: I assumed oz measurement listed in the site is per yard, but then I converted the 28oz of the ulster to gsm and, if it is 28/yard, that makes it 950gsm, which is like unreal heavy. So heavy, in fact, I suddenly wondered if I was wrong in assuming that the measurement is oz/yard.



If it is measured in oz/yard, then 23oz/yard is 780gsm; in my experience, most of the overcoating billed at heavyweight these days will be around 700-750gsm, so it seems like this would still be on the heavy end of the spectrum.


From personal experience, I have the tielocken in Bedford cord, and, at 22oz, it takes me deep into January and February here in Montreal without much fuss, as long as I wear a midlayer (e.g a tweed or flannel sportscoat or a sweater), scarf, hat, and gloves. As does my balmacaan and duffle coat. Of course, the coat and a t shirt might not do the job sure, but one of the chief joys in winter lies in layering, imo.
An interesting point. Wonder if Paul could weigh in on these calculations for us!
 

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