Rubato

[Coastal Ivy]

Sorry, my message was misleading. I’m sure these jeans have stretched and shrunk with wear and washing, but no more than 1cm. Whereas other jeans I’ve had (mainly raw or low tension) have stretched at least an inch in the waist and did not shrink back to their original size after a wash (ie they maintained their stretch somewhat)

Oh wow, very reduced stretch!

Interesting you mention your raw jeans don't shrink back down. Honestly I'm not sure if the pairs I have are raw or not but they have all shrunk in the wash (vintage levis, current orslows, blavkhorse lane).

To add to the compendium that's coming together here, I have rubatos suede and braided leather belt and they're both very nice quality (although I'm no expert).

Also just received their standard cardigan and while have to say it almost has a slim fit! Got an XL and on my 42" chest and 195lbs (wider shoulders, some gut - dad bod) it's a little tighter than expected, especially on the arms and stomach. Also a little scratchy on bare skin. Feels very well built though and if I lost a little weight it would probably fit better.

 

[henrip]

Medium roper shirt and size 31 denim

Medium roper and size 32 denim

 

[henrip]

So the measurements for the Rubato lot 1 ecru in size 31

Waist 41cm
Front rise 30
Back rise 38,5
Thigh 32,7
Thigh 10cm down from the crotch 29,5
Knee (30cm down…) 24
Hem 20,6 (last 16cm of the inseam is completely straight and hem width doesn’t change)

And size 32
Waist 42,5
Front rise 31
Back rise 38
Thigh 33,5
10cm down… 29,7
Knee 25
Hem 21,3

And the way I fold the jeans for waist measurement

 

[gwilliams84]

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The fits looks bang on for the jeans and the shirt!

 

[henrip]

The fits looks bang on for the jeans and the shirt!

Thanks! There is not much (or any) room for shrinkage though 🙈. If these would stretch out normally I wouldn’t feel unsure. Have you got any leg twist in your pair? These have none.

The shirt I think is really fine and I’m quite sure I’m keeping it 😎

 

[henrip]

I added a fit pic of the size 32 in the same post with 31. I might have made rushed decisions last night. Considering the denim is said to stretch less than many other denims I think size 32 suits me better. The fact that I can wash these far more often (weekly) than indigo denim without loosing any color makes me rethink if I need to worry more about shrinking than stretching.

 

[gwilliams84]

I added a fit pic of the size 32 in the same post with 31. I might have made rushed decisions last night. Considering the denim is said to stretch less than many other denims I think size 32 suits me better. The fact that I can wash these far more often (weekly) than indigo denim without loosing any color makes me rethink if I need to worry more about shrinking than stretching.

Good to have a comparison shot. I'm sure some other will also weigh in, but I'd go with the 32 - gives you a bit of extra room around the 'upper thigh' area, but doesn't look baggy anywhere. In fact it still looks a good fit in the waist.

I also tend to prefer my ecru jeans to be more relaxed anyway to avoid any associations with tight, white 'European playboy' jeans.

Agree, you might also tend to wash these more than indigo denim anyway, so stretch is less of an issue.

 

[sargeinaz]

I agree, the 32 looks better IMO and the shirt looks great too. Wear in good health!

 

[Bartolo]

Thanks! There is not much (or any) room for shrinkage though 🙈. If these would stretch out normally I wouldn’t feel unsure. Have you got any leg twist in your pair? These have none.

The shirt I think is really fine and I’m quite sure I’m keeping it 😎

I find the Rubato shirts to be sized at the small end of the range; their L is smaller than most other makers' L I believe.

I bought that shirt too but I think I'm mostly going to wear it open over a dark t-shirt.

 

[philosophe]

Definitely sz 32.

 

[mak1277]

I added a fit pic of the size 32 in the same post with 31. I might have made rushed decisions last night. Considering the denim is said to stretch less than many other denims I think size 32 suits me better. The fact that I can wash these far more often (weekly) than indigo denim without loosing any color makes me rethink if I need to worry more about shrinking than stretching.

Aren’t you going to wear a belt regardless? So what’s the issue with a little stretch? I’d definitely go 32

 

[henrip]

Aren’t you going to wear a belt regardless? So what’s the issue with a little stretch? I’d definitely go 32

Not necessarily. I like my jeans to fit quite snug.

 

[Coastal Ivy]

Medium roper shirt and size 31 denim View attachment 2140237

Medium roper and size 32 denim
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I think the 32 looks better, more elegant. If it still fits your waist then that would be my go-to.

 

[gettoasty]

@henrip @gwilliams84 How have the Rubato jeans held up? Stretched a lot? Would you describe the pattern more of a straight fit or tapered? I am looking at the denim dark blue rinse, and sie 34 seems to hit the spot granted rise can be a tad higher for wearing with sportcoats etc.

Any leg twists yet?

 

[K. Nights]

I find the Rubato shirts to be sized at the small end of the range; their L is smaller than most other makers' L I believe.

I bought that shirt too but I think I'm mostly going to wear it open over a dark t-shirt.

I agree. I have the officer shirt in large and it fits deceptively small, even for the given measurements. The sleeves are surprisingly short for a Scandinavian brand.
I have quite a several pieces of knitwear as well, which are expensive but nice