Random fashion thoughts - Part II (A New Hope)

[Caveat]

Speaking of Belgium. I'm going to be visiting Brussels for a couple of days. I'm sure I'll take a train to Antwerp to see the Schneider store. What other stores are must see? Is there a Dries store?

 

[Bam!ChairDance]



Re vetements, are we talking about this current season?
Previous seasons seemed to be heavily branded and 'street' of you will

I was mainly referring to the more overtly MMM-ish references like the oversized tailoring and super long sleeves. Don't know enough about early MMM to say whether all the street aspects are also just carryovers from the turn of the millennium. But yeah, it does seem like Vetements has taken that older MMM aesthetic and added some "of the moment" elements to it?

That could also be part of Vetements' appeal- that 2015 is somehow ripe for that sort of thing in a way that the previous half-decade was not. I could probably find a handful of other late 90s/ early 2000s looks that would not find as warm a welcome if they suddenly reappeared today.

Holy ****, this has so much potential for hilarity. Imagine people paying to borrow the identity of others to search for censored terms, buy undesirable things, etc. I'm also assuming rates of identity theft will skyrocket, so politicians, etc. can buy Appreciation without it negatively reflecting on them.

My favorite part is that your worth as a human is basically determined by a retail giant.

Imagine if your trustworthiness depended on your Yoox ratio. My rowboat will depart tomorrow at sunrise if you care to join.

 

[LA Guy]

sounds good to me ! but real truffles or that crap synthetic oil ?

If it's the oil, we'll just go with the lobster mac. I like that more anyway. It has a sorta over the top, completely unncessary, feel to it. Pair with a citrusy salad, and you have a meal that would make a Crossfitter blanche (which generally means that it is tasty.)

 

[Hyperios]

Speaking of Belgium. I'm going to be visiting Brussels for a couple of days. I'm sure I'll take a train to Antwerp to see the Schneider store. What other stores are must see? Is there a Dries store?

Yes Dries has a store, like half a block away from the Schneider store too, very close. Other than that maybe atelier solarshop or Ann D?

 

[Ken P]



Speaking of Belgium. I'm going to be visiting Brussels for a couple of days. I'm sure I'll take a train to Antwerp to see the Schneider store. What other stores are must see? Is there a Dries store?

Not clothing: Cantillon

 

[pickpackpockpuck]



Re vetements, are we talking about this current season?
Previous seasons seemed to be heavily branded and 'street' of you will

I think just talking generally. You know, I think I finally put finger on what irks me about Vetements. Probably have to work it out in my head some more, but I think it's basically conceptual Saint Laurent. It's the same deliberate trashiness, the same angst-ridden, disaffected "youth" cliche—clothes for "rebellious" art school kids. Everyone rips on Hedi with the criticism that it looks like he raided a thrift store. It's exactly the same with Vetements, only SL gets shredded for it and Vetements gets praised, presumably because it's less overtly commercial and "anti-fashion." Really, though, I think the underlying principle is very similar to Saint Laurent. Their customers are hanging out at the same ****** bar, but eyeing each other judgmentally from across the room.

Back when they were still anonymous, a rep for the brand, which probably means Gvasalia, said they set out to make singular pieces rather than a cohesive collection. Those individual pieces are mostly riffs on thrift-store finds. Sounds familiar, no? It's basically how Hedi works.

Some of the results are really good. I do think the reworked jeans and sweats are great. And those shearlings from fall were weird and awesome. For some of the other looks that I find myself liking, it's more about the styling than the clothes themselves. Again, sounds like the complaint with SL.

Where the clothes really fall flat to me is in how they try to play with proportions by just making everything big. To my eye, there's not a lot of creative reimagining going on, which should be the point, no? Take the oversized bomber jackets from fall, and then compare them with the oversized bomber Undercover did. Vetements looks like what you'd expect from Yeezy season whatever. It's just oversized, with one extra long sleeve (lazy); that's all. Takahashi looked at the way bombers sit and then emphasized the ends of the sleeves, the slouch in the hem, changed the whole shape. It's like if Balenciaga made a bomber jacket. The irony!

 

[cyc wid it]

Anyone know where I can find this season's AMI classic camel coat in a size 50?

Or look for something similar from say LBM? Any camel coat recs appreciated.

 

[tjonesd2]

anyone mess with Camoshita? What's sizing like? Anywhere stocking it in LA? Thanks

 

[sipang]



Not clothing: Cantillon

Went there on a school trip in elementary school, good times

 

[Mulan]

anyone mess with Camoshita? What's sizing like? Anywhere stocking it in LA? Thanks

No Man Walks Alone carries the brand. Check out their affiliate thread here.

 

[zissou]



I doubt we are in disagreement over the level of constructiveness, but "creepy" is trotted out so frequently now as a rote criticism it is losing its meaning.

Well, he took down the quotes with Fok's full name, so it's definitely not as creepy anymore.

 

[sipang]



it's basically conceptual Saint Laurent. It's the same deliberate trashiness, the same angst-ridden, disaffected "youth" cliche—clothes for "rebellious" art school kids. Everyone rips on Hedi with the criticism that it looks like he raided a thrift store. It's exactly the same with Vetements, only SL gets shredded for it and Vetements gets praised, presumably because it's less overtly commercial and "anti-fashion." Really, though, I think the underlying principle is very similar to Saint Laurent. Their customers are hanging out at the same ****** bar, but eyeing each other judgmentally from across the room.

Back when they were still anonymous, a rep for the brand, which probably means Gvasalia, said they set out to make singular pieces rather than a cohesive collection. Those individual pieces are mostly riffs on thrift-store finds. Sounds familiar, no? It's basically how Hedi works.

I agree but... Vetements saving grace is that it's just plain ugly and messy, all over the place and (slightly) off. Hedi is all about control and is basically in the repro business. Both labels probably take themselves way too seriously but SLP is also terminally soul-sucking

 

[coolron]

Speaking of Belgium. I'm going to be visiting Brussels for a couple of days. I'm sure I'll take a train to Antwerp to see the Schneider store. What other stores are must see? Is there a Dries store?

Stijl in Brussels is pretty cool, the Margiela store is nearby as well. The neighborhood around them has a lot of small boutiques and high fashion consignment stores, it's worth spending time just exploring the area.

 

[OccultaVexillum]

@cyc wid it

PM'd.

 

[LA Guy]

Anyone know where I can find this season's AMI classic camel coat in a size 50?



Or look for something similar from say LBM? Any camel coat recs appreciated.

http://www.fransboonestore.com/coll...si/products/ami-3-buttons-classic-coat-havana

Dude, learn how to google.