** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

[BurgundyOxfords]

All this Pembroke talk has got me thinking. I've always been drawn to the shoe but have felt that the 325 just wouldn't work on my wide feet. Islay fit perfectly with no excessive room across the ball. Any interest for a GMTO for a Pembroke in brown riughout in the 365 and with a Ridgeway sole*?

*I'd prefer the Vikram Londra, but that a a no-go with Crockett.

i am interested in rather Cardigan > Pembroke in 378 or 365. Though I would like the chestnut smooth calf similar to the Skye 3 chestnut boot.

Do you feel like if 365 was a bit wider in the forefoot you could go half a size down?

We could inquire for 365 F width.
E < F < G < H

 

[BurgundyOxfords]

Old and new(er) Islay’s.

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How long till they get lighter like this?

who needs tan MTO … just wear them until they bec tan

 

[Von Knauzenstein]

How long till they get lighter like this?

who needs tan MTO … just wear them until they bec tan

I don’t remember but i i think I didn’t use shoe cream for a year or so, just renovateur. I did use cream a week or so ago and they look like new again. Well sort off, I used them a few times in soaking rain after the cream.

 

[BurgundyOxfords]

This find from Japan: let’s make it an GMTO last 365 E or F
Oak wax calf
Double stitch alongside the brogue detailing
Ridgeway or Dianite

 

[BurgundyOxfords]

Wearing my Bangors. Pretty much the Islay boot as a shoe. Last 365 is probably the RTW last that fits me best among all makers. I only wish that C&J made more models in this last...

As new...

You are not alone. 😂
We are starting an GMTO soon for a Bangor.

 

[Moostyle]

Hi everyone does anyone have any ideas what I can do about the horrendously thin and ineffective tounge that C&J put on the Harlech (and Islay)? The thing is a nightmare, constantly worming its way around the side of my lower leg and creating discomfort in a way that none of my other boots do. Is there something that can be done at a cobblers or do I just have to live with it?

 

[BurgundyOxfords]

Hi everyone does anyone have any ideas what I can do about the horrendously thin and ineffective tounge that C&J put on the Harlech (and Islay)? The thing is a nightmare, constantly worming its way around the side of my lower leg and creating discomfort in a way that none of my other boots do. Is there something that can be done at a cobblers or do I just have to live with it?

How thin can you post a foto (with measuring tape next to it)?
I guess you could let a cobbler put some lining on it or maybe use one of these Pedag pads for the tongues.

 

[BurgundyOxfords]

This find from Japan: let’s make it an GMTO last 365 E or F
Oak wax calf
Double stitch alongside the brogue detailing
Ridgeway or Dianite

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There is now a GMTO for this exact model:
On 365 E last (378 E is debatable)
in colour Oak
in smooth waxed calf leather
on ridgeway sole

I am waiting for a response from CJ on pricing.

Additionally CJ headquarters will let us know if there are width F for 365 and 378. We could run a pole regarding width and figure out if it’s advantageous to move to a slightly wider F last of 365 or 378. keep in mind F is a small step as there is even wider G width.

GMTO Link:

SF CJ MTO Thread: Proposal Sheet.xlsx

docs.google.com

 

[florent]

Hi everyone does anyone have any ideas what I can do about the horrendously thin and ineffective tounge that C&J put on the Harlech (and Islay)? The thing is a nightmare, constantly worming its way around the side of my lower leg and creating discomfort in a way that none of my other boots do. Is there something that can be done at a cobblers or do I just have to live with it?

A cobbler can stitch it on a side of the facings, easy intervention

 

[jssdc]

Hi everyone does anyone have any ideas what I can do about the horrendously thin and ineffective tounge that C&J put on the Harlech (and Islay)? The thing is a nightmare, constantly worming its way around the side of my lower leg and creating discomfort in a way that none of my other boots do. Is there something that can be done at a cobblers or do I just have to live with it?

Can you show some pictures to demonstrate what you mean? I haven’t really any idea what you’re talking about.

 

[BurgundyOxfords]

There is now a GMTO for this exact model:
On 365 E last (378 E is debatable)
in colour Oak
in smooth waxed calf leather
on ridgeway sole

I am waiting for a response from CJ on pricing.

Additionally CJ headquarters will let us know if there are width F for 365 and 378. We could run a pole regarding width and figure out if it’s advantageous to move to a slightly wider F last of 365 or 378. keep in mind F is a small step as there is even wider G width.

GMTO Link:

SF CJ MTO Thread: Proposal Sheet.xlsx

docs.google.com

So the GMTO is set to be as follows:
Last: 365 E
Leather: wax calf (see fotos)
Colour: Oak
Sole: Ridgeway
Eyelets: 5x exposed

 

[BurgundyOxfords]

I haven’t received add info about the Bangor yet but a few weeks ago the price for a shoes GMTO was approx 540 incl. VAT. If it Is to be done on last 378 it’s +50 gbp.

We need 10 participant.

 

[Duke Santos]

I haven’t received add info about the Bangor yet but a few weeks ago the price for a shoes GMTO was approx 500 incl. VAT. If it Is to be done on last 378 it’s +50 gbp.

We need 10 participant.

I'm on the fence. I just had a second retina detach, and the surgery has maxed my annual out of pocket expense (I'm in the US and have to deal with our rent-seeking, parasitic for-profit health insurance system), so I might but don't want to commit immediately.

 

[BurgundyOxfords]

I'm on the fence. I just had a second retina detach, and the surgery has maxed my annual out of pocket expense (I'm in the US and have to deal with our rent-seeking, parasitic for-profit health insurance system), so I might but don't want to commit immediately.

oh man, hope surgery went well! all the best!

 

[Moostyle]

GMTO: Dundee Whiskey Shell Cordovan

Reminder for a GMTO currently running for a Dundee boot in whiskey shell cordovan. The specifications are set out below.

- Model: Dundee
- Last: 325 or 335
- Width: E (regular)
- Material: Shell Cordovan
- Colour: Whiskey
- Welt: Stormwelt
- Sole: Dainite
- Tongue: Regular
- Edge Finish: Antique
- Eyelets: 4 exposed + 4 speedhooks (antique brass)
- Pull Tab: Yes
- Price: £1150 inc. VAT / £958 exc. VAT (price to be confirmed by C&J only when we have confirmed number of participants)

For references and photos of the Dundee boot, visit the following SF threads:

Example 1
Example 2
Example 3
Example 4

Here is the link to the Dundee Whiskey Shell GMTO spreadsheet.

Ahh I would be really interested in this GMTO if it was a gusseted tounge that actually stayed firmly in place all day while wearing them. My Harlech and Islay tounges are so thin (narrow accross in width) that they do not stay in place and always creep around to the outer side of both feet. I need to take them to a cobbler and see what they can do.

Who knows, if its an easy fix I may yet be interested in this GMTO, but at the moment the very narrow tounge style is a downside to C&J in my eyes.