Mad Men Season 4

[3cyr3]

episode was hilarious!

 

[Connemara]

Best episode of the season IMO. I thought it was quite powerful. To add to Manton's comment about the costumes, the makeup is also great. Has anyone noticed that Don has been looking much more haggard over the past few episodes?

 

[LawrenceMD]

this has to be the episode that wins john ham the emmy right?

 

[RedLantern]

Originally Posted by Rambo

Ballsy Pete is really an improvement. The scene where he leaned back in the chair and looked at Cosgrove like "yeah, that's right" was a nice touch.

Best line: "I always liked chocolate ice cream but my mother made us eat vanilla because it didn't stain anything."

The part where Pete leaned back in his chair was hillarious, but only because it looked so contrived.

 

[Rambo]

Originally Posted by RedLantern

The part where Pete leaned back in his chair was hillarious, but only because it looked so contrived.
He can't quite pull off Don's level of balls so it takes a bit more effort.

 

[fwiffo]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

I'm trying to figure out why Don is living in such a crappy apartment. Betty is remarried, so no alimony. I can't imagine child support is that much. It puzzles me.

In the first episode, they say he's still paying for the house, insurance, etc.

And when has Draper been careful with money? I'm actually surprised in retrospect he was able to amass that much in the drawer of his desk. It must have been all those years being a family man and unable to go out as much.

Originally Posted by RedLantern

The part where Pete leaned back in his chair was hillarious, but only because it looked so contrived.

I think it's intentional but frankly out of all the people at the new company, he is probably most apt to take over. Not sure about Peggy - she's great but perhaps not as "pragmatic" as Pryce says of Campbell.

Funny I was thumbing the Emmy wins just to see what they did win and came across the blogosphere articles. Seems like a portion of the "critics" don't like the writers destroying the Draper mystique while the other portion thinks it's incredibly refreshing akin to most people on this thread.

That Ted Chaough guy (or as Sterling says Chow-uh-guh) drives me nuts. I bet he dreams of Draper at night.

 

[Joffrey]

I actually don't like seeing Draper's fall from grace, but it's timely. I was worried about where the show is going but I am begining to feel good about it. I have to say though, I was cringing in the Life cereal pitch scene where a visibly drunk Don was floundering.

 

[bcate3]

Originally Posted by Rambo

He can't quite pull off Don's level of balls so it takes a bit more effort.

Pete's still young, several years younger than Don and looks it, but his business development is slowly weaning SCDP from its dangerous dependence on Lucky Strike. He may look awkward at times, but we are witnessing someone transforming himself from a junior exec to a power player in the office.

Reminds me that Lane was once again great in this episode. Telling Pete that "Roger Sterling is a child" was his most effective argument in countering Pete's skepticism after his other appeals fell flat. Lane steals every scene he's in.

 

[Manton]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

I'm trying to figure out why Don is living in such a crappy apartment. Betty is remarried, so no alimony. I can't imagine child support is that much. It puzzles me.

Are you kidding? It has an acutal kitchen (not appliances along the living room wall) and a real bedroom. By Manhattan standards, that's a palace.

 

[Joffrey]

It's furnished like **** though.

 

[grundletaint]

who cares? it's a **** pad. if he's there, he's passed out or getting some ass. any other time, he's at the office.

 

[Beetleything]

Originally Posted by Jodum5

I actually don't like seeing Draper's fall from grace, but it's timely. I was worried about where the show is going but I am begining to feel good about it. I have to say though, I was cringing in the Life cereal pitch scene where a visibly drunk Don was floundering.

Don totally blew his cool.

I'm wondering if he's going to do something (all the other stuff does not seem to be shaking him awake) that's going to make him stop and think about the slippy slope he seems to be going down.

He's a man adrift.

 

[Gibonius]

Don't crappy apartment basically is a sign of how he has lost touch with life outside of work. He doesn't even bother putting in the effort to have a nice place, not trying to keep up his polished appearance once he leaves home. Just another general symptom of his downward spiral, presumably it'll start creeping more and more into his work until some cataclysmic turning point wakes him up and gets him moving forward again.

 

[Baron]

Don has plenty of money - I believe they mentioned that he got $500,000 when Sterling Cooper was bought out by the Brits. That was real money in those days, plus he gets paid well.

That Life cereal pitch was rough but it was tempered by the fact that the clients were as drunk as he was. It was the rest of his staff that stayed behind (Peggy) that was more apt to lose respect for him.

 

[Baron]

Plus that aparmtent has 2 actual bedrooms (remember he had Lane go to the 2nd bedroom rather than his), plus a living room and kitchen. Not a dump by any means.