Lets talk about COFFEE

[patrickBOOTH]

They are not the best at it, but they were designed specifically to be espresso grinders and that's what they excel at.

 

[b1os]

Unmodded, they have one (or two) settings for espresso-fine grounds. That simply can't work.

 

[indesertum]

When I said best at espresso I meant that I never came across anybody saying they were best used for espressos not best in the industry at espresso

I honestly don't see anything saying that skertons are made for espressos

This is the official video from the Hario website. They use the grinds for a pour over (1:10 also note the use of flesh grounds instead of fresh grounds)


This seems like a ticky tack point to make. I'm going to stop

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Well regardless, the Hario is not great at anything. It's a price point, that's it.

 

[indesertum]

That's something I agree with. It's a nice travel sized thing that I would imagine is popular at offices

 

[scottcw]

Aero is not as acidic as Chemex by a long shot. Aero produces a cup much closer to press. I alternate between them on a regular basis using the same beans, so the only variable is the method.

For grinders, the porlex is nice, but the LIDO from Orphan Espresso is unmatched. Wait for v2 to come out in the next couple months.

 

[rydenfan]

Hadn't heard of the LIDO. Looks super nice

 

[indesertum]



Aero is not as acidic as Chemex by a long shot. Aero produces a cup much closer to press. I alternate between them on a regular basis using the same beans, so the only variable is the method.

For grinders, the porlex is nice, but the LIDO from Orphan Espresso is unmatched. Wait for v2 to come out in the next couple months.

Have you actually used lido? If so how is it and is it worth the premium?

I posted about it earlier but been kind of on the fence

 

[scottcw]



Have you actually used lido? If so how is it and is it worth the premium?

I posted about it earlier but been kind of on the fence

I bought one about a year ago. Not travel friendly, but it replaced my Virtuoso for daily home use. The one drawback is grind adjustment, but it appears they remedied that in v2. I love it so much that I am thinking of buying v2 and maybe using v1 at work.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Hear nothing but praise about orphan espresso products

 

[dreamsburndown]

I am 95% sure this is not true. Skertons are really bad for espresso because it's inconsistent at both extremes of particle size.

It's not great for french press either but you can mod so it's much more stable and produce less fines

It's meant to be used along with the Hario v60 pour overs which is a finer grind but not as fine as espresso. Sometimes they're sold in sets from what I understand although I've never seen these so called sets

Hmm, I was thinking of getting a Hario Skerton because I've had to replace my electric burr grinder a couple times but they're presumably horrible for French press. I guess they only work for medium grind? What kind of grind does an Aero press require? I should probably just try to get a high quality electric grinder.

 

[indesertum]

They're not horrible. They're pretty decent. Just inconsistent at either extreme. Aero press is finer than French press. You want a grind that just gets caught on the filter.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Would the SL28 and SL34 varietals be considered, "GMO"?

 

[b1os]

According to http://www.coffeehunter.com/green_coffees/european/kenya , they are hybrids. Hence, I believe, by definition, no GMOs.

Only Arabica is cultivated in Kenya. In the 1950s, several extremely successful hybrids from Scott Laboratories were introduced and these have largely replaced the original French Bourbon stock which had been brought to Kenya from neighbouring Ethiopia. The most well-known are SL (‘Scott Laboratory’) 28 and SL34 - these are Bourbon varieties and lend Kenya the distinctive big body and winy blackcurrant notes for which it is famed.

Stumptown says the same.

Scott Laboratories (SL) created this [ SL 28 ] native Kenyan coffee variety in the 1930s. Botanists at the institute searched for different mutations of French Mission (a.k.a. Bourbon), Mocha and Yemeni Typica which they began to crossbreed with the hope of finding high quality, high yielding and disease resistant strains.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Yes, but they didn't occur naturally, they were engineered.