bartleby929
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from what I understand..."mid" law is a bit of a myth but it does exist.
there's going to be a good amount of lawyers that come out fresh, making market - that's $160k + bonuses. Wow!
but the vast, vast majority will be staring at $45k or less. Nightmare! if you have a huge amount of debt - that survives bankruptcy
then a small percentage will find a decent boutique firm that'll give them $85-115k - but this is really, really hard to get as a fresh graduate.
Why does everyone hate on law school? Because if you get big law, you are looking at getting worked into the ground for 5 years before you either hit the lottery and become partner or you have to find another job. The mid law myth is in part because there are so many goddamn big law cast offs who have great degrees and work experience
Why would a boutique firm or a 200+ attorney regional firm want to hire someone fresh out of law school when they can get some grizzled veteran from big law? To get mid law, you need to be a social network g-unit or else you need to have connections.
The worst stories though, the horror stories, I think are mostly people who didn't do their due diligence. You cannot take $200k out in loans, spend a summer studying "law" in Spain from a "for-profit" law school. You need to think long and hard about law school. You MUST do well on the LSAT before considering law school - I'm not joking.
Lastly, IBR, or the work for 10 years and we'll forgive your loans thing is very complicated. if you get a wife and she works, it gets even more complicated. the gov. isn't going to let a bunch of people walk away with a couple hundred K. As long as the government is the one giving out student loans, I wouldn't trust the system.
BOLs all, back to studying for another 6 hours during my super fun spring break. abovethelaw
there's going to be a good amount of lawyers that come out fresh, making market - that's $160k + bonuses. Wow!
but the vast, vast majority will be staring at $45k or less. Nightmare! if you have a huge amount of debt - that survives bankruptcy
then a small percentage will find a decent boutique firm that'll give them $85-115k - but this is really, really hard to get as a fresh graduate.
Why does everyone hate on law school? Because if you get big law, you are looking at getting worked into the ground for 5 years before you either hit the lottery and become partner or you have to find another job. The mid law myth is in part because there are so many goddamn big law cast offs who have great degrees and work experience
Why would a boutique firm or a 200+ attorney regional firm want to hire someone fresh out of law school when they can get some grizzled veteran from big law? To get mid law, you need to be a social network g-unit or else you need to have connections.
The worst stories though, the horror stories, I think are mostly people who didn't do their due diligence. You cannot take $200k out in loans, spend a summer studying "law" in Spain from a "for-profit" law school. You need to think long and hard about law school. You MUST do well on the LSAT before considering law school - I'm not joking.
Lastly, IBR, or the work for 10 years and we'll forgive your loans thing is very complicated. if you get a wife and she works, it gets even more complicated. the gov. isn't going to let a bunch of people walk away with a couple hundred K. As long as the government is the one giving out student loans, I wouldn't trust the system.
BOLs all, back to studying for another 6 hours during my super fun spring break. abovethelaw