help me fire a new hire

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by A.L.Z.

GIve him 2 weeks before you do anything.

Originally Posted by Fraiche

Give him a couple of tasks you know he will fail in.

Document them. Then fire at will.

Two pieces of bad advice. Don't wait two weeks. Also, do more than document his failures. Document that you provided proper instruction, gave constructive feed back and/or further training, progressive discipline, then terminated.

 

[in stitches]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

This. And learn to interview better.

Also, still expect to lose your unemployment hearing.

Originally Posted by Fraiche

Give him a couple of tasks you know he will fail in.

Document them. Then fire at will.

i didnt do the hire, he was hired at one of our other stores then sent to me. i suspect the original guy who hired him was to big of a ***** to do the firing himself. he acted like he was doing me a favor by sending me a new salesman.

thankfuly baltimore is a fire at will place so i dont need any specific reason. i just want some pointers on how to word it. i could just say get the **** out but i want to be nicer about it

 

[Fraiche]

Originally Posted by in stitches

i didnt do the hire, he was hired at one of our other stores then sent to me. i suspect the original guy who hired him was to big of a ***** to do the firing himself. he acted like he was doing me a favor by sending me a new salesman.

thankfuly baltimore is a fire at will place so i dont need any specific reason. i just want some pointers on how to word it. i could just say get the **** out but i want to be nicer about it

Just tell the guy he's not a good fit for the position.

Tell him you had the position for someone about 5'6, 110 lbs with DDs.

 

[A.L.Z.]

Originally Posted by Piobaire

Two pieces of bad advice. Don't wait two weeks. Also, do more than document his failures. Document that you provided proper instruction, gave constructive feed back and/or further training, progressive discipline, then terminated.

LOL.
I take you work by yourself, or run your own business, or something like that?

Do you think others around you are blind or stupid?


People around you always become remarkably righteous when it coming to firing....and you are doing the firing....

 

[Joffrey]

Originally Posted by in stitches

blah

i suck at firing

any help?

Be less of a marsupial when hiring.

 

[Connemara]

Come on man, I was just joking! Learn to live a little!

 

[Nouveau Pauvre]

Ooo does mean there will be a job opening in Baltimore? I have extensive experience in luxury sales and a great schedule.

 

[willpower]

Tell him you're transferring him to the open job market.

 

[in stitches]

Originally Posted by Jodum5

Be less of a marsupial when hiring.

i already addressed this

Originally Posted by Magician

Ooo does mean there will be a job opening in Baltimore? I have extensive experience in luxury sales and a great schedule.

the job is as far from luxury sales as possible i target the masses not the classes

 

[Piobaire]

Originally Posted by A.L.Z.

LOL.
I take you work by yourself, or run your own business, or something like that?

Do you think others around you are blind or stupid?


People around you always become remarkably righteous when it coming to firing....and you are doing the firing....

Wow, you nailed me! Not a chance I have 100s of employees, is there? I mean, out of ******* no where, I told this guy how to carefully and legally terminate someone in a fashion designed to mitigate litigation risk and making it a sure win in the unemployment hearing. If you let things go, for any length of time (which is what you suggested) and litigation occurs, you will be asked why you allowed substandard behaviour and/or practices to continue. Your answer will be...? Because? Judges and opposing council JUST LOVE to hear that.

I can tell you are a titan of industry and probably employ more people than the federal government and Wal-Mart combined!

Originally Posted by in stitches

thankfuly baltimore is a fire at will place so i dont need any specific reason. i just want some pointers on how to word it. i could just say get the **** out but i want to be nicer about it

Employment (not fire) at will does not mean you are not open to employment litigation and having to pay this guy's unemployment.

 

[Michigan Planner]

I think you need to call in these folks to take care of business:

 

[Piobaire]

^

 

[in stitches]

Originally Posted by Michigan Planner

I think you need to call in these folks to take care of business:

i always wondered if that was a real job?

 

[randallr]

Originally Posted by in stitches

i always wondered if that was a real job?

It is

 

[changy]

Originally Posted by in stitches

just got a new hire, seemed ok.

its clear he is a marsupial, he just asked a customer if they had an arranged marriage i found him sitting at my desk going through the rolodex to call vendors to say hi and place an order on his 2nd day it only gets worse but i suck at firing

any help?

People still use rolodex? Ask him to transfer the rolodex info to outlook to bore him out of his mind. Maybe he'll quit