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[justinkapur]



Justin, I'm in for the dark brown suede Adelaide in the Simpson last

My comment in the previous post was mentioning that you had other spice interest

Hey, I have a dark suede so no go for me on that and I dont like the Simpson last unfortunately. Rain works better for me.

 

[golfinz]

Yes, I've gotten that from some of your other previous posts. You are interested in a spice suede rain last mto, while I am interested in a dark brown suede Simpson last mto

 

[eljlakers]

Right I think that specific makeup (i.e. color and style) was skoaties but the Adelaide style has been done over many brands of shoemakers. I would be very surprised if skoatie has the carmina "rights" to the Adelaide. In talking with Steve, it seems like we can do what we are talking about - Adelaide in dark brown suede in the Simpson last and/or rain last

Certainly Skoaktie doesn't have exclusive rights to Carmina's adelaide makeups (only Carmina does, I would think

). But the particular model you linked to is slightly different than the normal adelaide - the punched decoration along the collar of the shoe is slightly different if you pay close attention, and there's no heel counter. So I would think there might be some resistance from Carmina if Steve asked to reproduce this particular adelaide in a tobacco or spice color. He might be told that particular makeup is exclusive to Skoaktie. That's just my guess though. Steve would probably have a clearer answer on this. All that said, if you went with a more traditional adelaide in any suede you like, I'm sure there'd be no problem at all.

 

[gettoasty]

Dark brown > spice brown

But I'd prefer the Rain last since it fits me and no experience with the Simpson last...

 

[golfinz]

Certainly Skoaktie doesn't have exclusive rights to Carmina's adelaide makeups (only Carmina does, I would think

). But the particular model you linked to is slightly different than the normal adelaide - the punched decoration along the collar of the shoe is slightly different if you pay close attention, and there's no heel counter. So I would think there might be some resistance from Carmina if Steve asked to reproduce this particular adelaide in a tobacco or spice color. He might be told that particular makeup is exclusive to Skoaktie. That's just my guess though. Steve would probably have a clearer answer on this. All that said, if you went with a more traditional adelaide in any suede you like, I'm sure there'd be no problem at all.

Ah, I see what you are saying. The Skoatie's making is a tad different than the traditional Adelaide.

Either way, I know Steve wouldn't step on the shoes (see what I did there lol) of Patrik and Skoatie, so whatever happens, I'm sure everything will be a-ok. Either way, I need this shoe in dark brown suede!

 

[DonRaphael]



Ah, I see what you are saying.  The Skoatie's making is a tad different than the traditional Adelaide.

Either way, I know Steve wouldn't step on the shoes (see what I did there lol) of Patrik and Skoatie, so whatever happens, I'm sure everything will be a-ok.  Either way, I need this shoe in dark brown suede!

That is my understanding also. I. Need.

 

[agedashidofu]



I mean why do you even need a sample? Its spice suede. Sounds amazing no?

Ok fine heres a sample :

Oh my goodness!!! Beautiful suede. Is spice another name for copper suede? Looks very similar to copper suede. This forum is a really dangerous place!!!

 

[justinkapur]



Oh my goodness!!! Beautiful suede. Is spice another name for copper suede? Looks very similar to copper suede. This forum is a really dangerous place!!!

Copper seems like the perfect way to describe it.

Are you in bro?

 

[steveyoo1983]

Quote:
Originally Posted by TRINI
IN.

Does Carmina offer a stormwelt on this model? Would anybody be interested in that?

Yes, a storm welt is an available option. I'm on the fence on this one, but would want storm welt and Danite sole if I participated. Any pictures of the dark brown grain?
Quote:

Here's the dark brown

Dark Brown Scotch Grain Jumper boots with Storm Welt! Dainite Sole?
Sounds good to me!!

3 possibly interests! any other takers in this fall jumper boots MTO?

 

[steveyoo1983]

How about burgundy grain? I would also be interested in red brown grain like EG rosewood country calf if Carmina can find it. My understanding is that Carmina used to have it. It was like this

Come to think of it I would be interested in full brogued boots (similar to EG Alderley) built on either Oscar last or Detroit last. Maybe we can have special GF edition.

I think those burgundy scotch grains were indeed their cognac scotch grains....the carmina cognac scotch grains actually have that reddish tint to it. (unlike the cognac calf or cognac shell)
I tell you these names and different lighting in the pictures makes it so confusing haha
I think the current mto is steering towards dark brown scotch grain if you are interested!

We can definitely do a full brogue boots MTO! Avail in either Forest or Rain at this time!

 

[steveyoo1983]

Quote:
Originally Posted by calidist
First in!

Many thanks calidist! (and @leicadokyu ) you two gents are confirmed!

i believe @PapaRubbery is also in as well?
Please send me a PM if you would like to join in!

 

[steveyoo1983]

Certainly Skoaktie doesn't have exclusive rights to Carmina's adelaide makeups (only Carmina does, I would think

). But the particular model you linked to is slightly different than the normal adelaide - the punched decoration along the collar of the shoe is slightly different if you pay close attention, and there's no heel counter. So I would think there might be some resistance from Carmina if Steve asked to reproduce this particular adelaide in a tobacco or spice color. He might be told that particular makeup is exclusive to Skoaktie. That's just my guess though. Steve would probably have a clearer answer on this. All that said, if you went with a more traditional adelaide in any suede you like, I'm sure there'd be no problem at all.

These are some very good points eljlakers! I certainly dont want to step in anyone's toes here and I am a huge fan of what they do over at skoaktie!
From exchanging email with Carmina back and forth few times, it looks like they have no problem doing the adelaide model for us
However as a courtesy, since skoaktie is doing (or did) the model in tobacco suede, I wont be duplicating it in tobacco suede anytime soon.

So dark brown suede in RAIN last adelaide we are definitely good to go
adelaide / brown suede / Rain last / sole TBA

@golfinz @gettoasty @DonRaphael

Now for the Spice Suede, I am still trying to get a confirm from Betty about availability
@justinkapur @aldenwear @pinkpanther

I will keep you gents posted

 

[golfinz]

@steveyoo1983

Nice! Is there any way we could do the dark brown suede Adelaide in the Simpson last instead of the Rain or is the consensus Rain?

 

[steveyoo1983]

@steveyoo1983

Nice! Is there any way we could do the dark brown suede Adelaide in the Simpson last instead of the Rain or is the consensus Rain?

She didnt answer whether it can be done on Simpson
However the general consensus (i have two other interested on this MTO outside of SF) and they were both in for Rain only.

 

[golfinz]

She didnt answer whether it can be done on Simpson
However the general consensus (i have two other interested on this MTO outside of SF) and they were both in for Rain only.

Ok cool! I would go with the crowd if it can't be done on the Simpson but if she confirms that it can be done, let me know as I would need to decide if I want the Rain or would want to do a single mto on the Simpson

Thanks for getting this organized!