LawrenceMD
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Every week there's a new thread in bikeforums where a guy who complains about his custom titanium frame being too harsh. then they post a picture and details of the frame and you can see they used thick tubing with super wide diameters and you feel bad that they guy dropped a lot of money for it but also just by eyeballing the frame and materials used you can tell its going to be a harsh ride.
My old carbon Van Dessel Rivet was carbon and weighed in well below 15lbs. But the thing rode harsh.
^it really reminds me of the early 90's soda can wide down tube-ed Caanondale aluminumun ass hatchet frames. Its amazing how Cannondale figured out how to make such dynamic aluminum frames over the years. The new Caad frames are both comfortable and racy something thought only achievable with carbon and lots of technology.
naturally it rode harsh because its basically a carbon fiber frame suited for Criterium races.
I'd do 60mile rides after and just be trashed.
eventually i went back to steel, but you still can definitely have harsh steel rides too. its all about research.
There's been rave reviews of the continental gp 4000s tires specifically the 25c versions. I have to theorize that it's because they may be classified as 25c width but actually measure 27mm even heavier riders can ride them at 90psi on top of that they'd weigh 220g - they have to be thin.
So naturally a thin 27mm tire is going to be very comfortable. When you compare even the conti 4000 23c to older 80's-90's 23c equivalents the older gen tires are rock hard and super thin. My old 23c conti 4000s were 24mm+ in width - which ere comfortable in their own right.
Every week there's a new thread in bikeforums where a guy who complains about his custom titanium frame being too harsh. then they post a picture and details of the frame and you can see they used thick tubing with super wide diameters and you feel bad that they guy dropped a lot of money for it but also just by eyeballing the frame and materials used you can tell its going to be a harsh ride.
My old carbon Van Dessel Rivet was carbon and weighed in well below 15lbs. But the thing rode harsh.
^it really reminds me of the early 90's soda can wide down tube-ed Caanondale aluminumun ass hatchet frames. Its amazing how Cannondale figured out how to make such dynamic aluminum frames over the years. The new Caad frames are both comfortable and racy something thought only achievable with carbon and lots of technology.
naturally it rode harsh because its basically a carbon fiber frame suited for Criterium races.
I'd do 60mile rides after and just be trashed. eventually i went back to steel, but you still can definitely have harsh steel rides too. its all about research.
There's been rave reviews of the continental gp 4000s tires specifically the 25c versions. I have to theorize that it's because they may be classified as 25c width but actually measure 27mm even heavier riders can ride them at 90psi on top of that they'd weigh 220g - they have to be thin.
So naturally a thin 27mm tire is going to be very comfortable. When you compare even the conti 4000 23c to older 80's-90's 23c equivalents the older gen tires are rock hard and super thin. My old 23c conti 4000s were 24mm+ in width - which ere comfortable in their own right.
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