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Droid vs. iPhone? (esp. for advanced users)

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Benefits of iPhone (Useless without jailbreak/crack, so assuming that already): - All apps are free, and there are a lot of good ones out there with a very active 3rd party developer scene - Internet navigation is decent - Excellent instant messaging interface - Workplaces already starting to support it for corporate email (took a while, but it's happening) - Good facebook app - Tethering is easy - GPS/navigation is very good (3rd party apps, that is) - Incredibly good auto-correction on keyboard, making up for the difficulty in inputting things right the first time. Problems with iPhone - Insufferably laggy - Multitask mgmt is nonexistant and even with "Backgrounder" app download for cracked version it is not ideal - Awful programming of Internet app - nothing is stored in cache and back button mandated complete refresh of all previous pages (more annoying than you can imagine) - YouTube app is godawful (again no caching so as soon as video finishes, to replay you must reload the entire thing) - Lack of a real native file browser system - why can't I just USB drag and drop folders/files into iPhone without using the marsupialed iTunes crap? - Obnoxious "approval process" for new apps to get into AppStore that rejects some of the best potential apps out there due to conflict of interest (e.g. Grooveshark) - Obnoxious "turn your phone into a brick" risk for jailbroken phones when upgrading to new versions. Apple can do whatever they'd like to prevent people from hacking phones, but realize that this kind of customer unfriendly behavior will make people jump ship as soon as an alternative arrives - Crap video player that only supports some files Okay. Now, how can droid do a better job on these fronts? I don't give a crap about the QWERTY keyboard and the vanilla Droid youtube demos. I am not a BBerry-tool. I just want to know the important stuff. 1) If I load my droid with more than a handful of apps, does it become laggy (opening apps, etc.)? 2) How easy is it to "alt-tab" between apps in Droid? 3) Does the internet have caching? 4) Does youtube have caching? 5) There must be a real file browser, and it allows drag-dropping from PC via USB right? And it supports most basic file types (MS Office, PDF, etc.) 6) Does the video player support all file types? If not, is there a dynamic ability to download codecs to make it do so? 7) Most important - is it hackable/jailbreakable to allow for non-approved 3rd party apps and for free download of approved apps? Spare me your anti-piracy laments and gently remove your ass from *******. I don't care. 8) Is the "App Store" more open to "competing apps"? Too early to tell perhaps. These are the things that really matter, not those bullshit "comparison charts" floating around comparing the 30minute difference in standby battery life, hard drive sizes, and megapixels on the camera. Anyone with a droid or anyone that knows about droid, I'd appreciate if you could cover any of the above. Gracias.
 

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IBP!

To the topic, how does it handle corporate email? Can you push out from an MS Exchange server via desktop software?
 

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Originally Posted by MetroStyles
Benefits of iPhone (Useless without jailbreak/crack, so assuming that already):

- All apps are free, and there are a lot of good ones out there with a very active 3rd party developer scene


If you steal them.

- Awful programming of Internet app - nothing is stored in cache and back button mandated complete refresh of all previous pages (more annoying than you can imagine)
As with desktop browsers that have slow back functions, you can always open in new window/tab. This is what I do on mobile browsers; be it Mobile Safari or Opera.
 

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Originally Posted by Jumbie
If you steal them.

Yep. Got a problem with that? Start a new thread on piracy, or write your version of the Nicomachean Ethics. Otherwise, irrelevant to this thread.

Originally Posted by Jumbie
As with desktop browsers that have slow back functions, you can always open in new window/tab. This is what I do on mobile browsers; be it Mobile Safari or Opera.

Fair point, but come on - I don't want to open every link in a new page just to ensure the previous one is not lost. Besides, even worse - when you close the internet app and open it again, it RELOADS the page! Argh! Why, god, why!?
 

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Originally Posted by MetroStyles
Yep. Got a problem with that? Start a new thread on piracy, or write your version of the Nicomachean Ethics. Otherwise, irrelevant to this thread.

Not really. My point wasn't that it isn't really a feature IMO even using a jailbroken phone.

It's kind of like saying that computers are great cause all software is free.
 

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Originally Posted by Jumbie
Not really. My point wasn't that it isn't really a feature IMO even using a jailbroken phone.

It's kind of like saying that computers are great cause all software is free.


Alright, don't call it a feature. Call it a loophole. Does droid have this "loophole" or not?
 

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Originally Posted by Fuuma
Hmm I thought this would be about building a R2D2 to use as a phone, disappointed.

How easy is he to jailbreak?
 

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These are not the Droids you are looking for.
 

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Originally Posted by Fuuma
Hmm I thought this would be about building a R2D2 to use as a phone, disappointed.

I thought it was about C3PO fighting an Iphone not yet placed in DT. Even more disappointed.
 

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I haven't really used any of the droid phones much but they seem a lot more cluttered and less intuitive than the iphone.
 

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Originally Posted by Jumbie
As with desktop browsers that have slow back functions, you can always open in new window/tab. This is what I do on mobile browsers; be it Mobile Safari or Opera.

On the iPhone, even if you open a new browser window, if the new page takes a bunch of memory, the old window will still reload when you switch back. I'm not sure any memory-limited mobile device can solve this problem.

For putting files onto the iPhone, I like Air Sharing.

For Droid apps, the biggest hurdle for getting a big and diverse app scene is Android's non-standardization across Android distributions, just like desktop Linux. Androids on different phones are subtly different, and will frustrate developers the same way different web browsers (like IE) frustrate web developers. There's something to be said for a (mostly) benevolent dictatorship.

--Andre
 

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