Custom White's Boots ... Thoughts?

[climbinglife]

Do you have any darn tough socks? They are cushioned and come in a variety of weights. Maybe a mid weight, fully cushioned boot sock from them would take away any hot spots you are experiencing. You could even go with a heavy weight fully cushioned sock but that would be over kill… Can’t recommend those socks more they are awesome

I do, along with Fits socks. Been using them for years

 

[climbinglife]

I'm with the others, I think those look awesome!
Also, no one will notice the sole profile from the side except you when you hold them in front of your face. LOL

I don't own any SDs. Do they normally come with a false tongue/kiltie? I ask because one purpose of the kiltie is to provide extra padding in the tongue area. If the SDs don't normally come with a false tongue, then I can't offer any other insight.

Thanks my friend
They don't come with a false tongue but the cushion legal eagles mentioned above might work.
Hope all is well Andy

 

[montanamike]

I'm with the others, I think those look awesome!
Also, no one will notice the sole profile from the side except you when you hold them in front of your face. LOL

I don't own any SDs. Do they normally come with a false tongue/kiltie? I ask because one purpose of the kiltie is to provide extra padding in the tongue area. If the SDs don't normally come with a false tongue, then I can't offer any other insight.

They don't usually (at least none of mine have). I added some to one pair that seemed a touch loose.

 

[klank74]

This is probably a long shot, but does anyone have experience with both the 38 swing and 1970 lasts? All my whites are on the 38. They all have an instep adjustment for my low instep and are a 13C with a B heel. Is it at all possible that the 1970 would work for me, or adjustments can be made that it would? I’ve always wanted a pair of engineer boots but I’m worried that with my narrow heels and low instep, I’ll have issues with heel slip. Does the strap help alleviate that? I plan on contacting Kyle at bakers about it, but thought I’d ask here first before wasting his time.

 

[andy b.]

This is probably a long shot, but does anyone have experience with both the 38 swing and 1970 lasts? All my whites are on the 38. They all have an instep adjustment for my low instep and are a 13C with a B heel. Is it at all possible that the 1970 would work for me, or adjustments can be made that it would? I’ve always wanted a pair of engineer boots but I’m worried that with my narrow heels and low instep, I’ll have issues with heel slip. Does the strap help alleviate that? I plan on contacting Kyle at bakers about it, but thought I’d ask here first before wasting his time.

I can only offer my personal experience (it is with a pair of Wesco engineer boots). The strap doesn't do a heck of a lot. LOL
It probably does help with keeping the arch from stretching a little if you undo the strap before you remove the boots, and then tighten the strap once the boots are on.
As far as heel slip, my heels also run slightly narrow for my overall foot width. In both engineer boots and harness boots, I have been wearing some cushioned over the calf socks (they stay up well in pull-on boots), and I don't really notice much heel slip once the boots are broken in. When new I definitely notice the heel slip while walking around. There is still a little slip, but that is the nature of slip-on boots. If they fit as snugly as lace-up boots, you wouldn't be able to get your foot into them.

 

[klank74]

I can only offer my personal experience (it is with a pair of Wesco engineer boots). The strap doesn't do a heck of a lot. LOL
It probably does help with keeping the arch from stretching a little if you undo the strap before you remove the boots, and then tighten the strap once the boots are on.
As far as heel slip, my heels also run slightly narrow for my overall foot width. In both engineer boots and harness boots, I have been wearing some cushioned over the calf socks (they stay up well in pull-on boots), and I don't really notice much heel slip once the boots are broken in. When new I definitely notice the heel slip while walking around. There is still a little slip, but that is the nature of slip-on boots. If they fit as snugly as lace-up boots, you wouldn't be able to get your foot into them.

I’m not opposed to going with Wescos either. In fact, I’d love to try something from them. I don’t think they offer a leather like I’m considering though. I was looking at going with either black cxl or black waxed flesh.

 

[Jimk4003]

I’m not opposed to going with Wescos either. In fact, I’d love to try something from them. I don’t think they offer a leather like I’m considering though. I was looking at going with either black cxl or black waxed flesh.

I'd shoot either Wesco or Bakers an email; Wesco offer a ton of leather options that don't appear anywhere on their website.

 

[climbinglife]

Have you tried a tongue pad to reduce heel lift and at the same time give some protection from the laces? I know it sounds strange, but a tongue pad can help with heel slip...

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So thanks again for this rec. I bought a pair and they are coming this week. My question if you might have some insight is how far up or down the tongue do you place the pad? Or is this preference based on where it is uncomfortable?

 

[Legal Eagles]

So thanks again for this rec. I bought a pair and they are coming this week. My question if you might have some insight is how far up or down the tongue do you place the pad? Or is this preference based on where it is uncomfortable?

If the laces cut into the top of your foot, I would place the middle of the pad under the area of discomfort. I generally place them middle to low on the tongue... you can try them out with two sided tape and get the location perfect before you use the adhesive on pad itself to "permanently" affix them.

I have a wide forefoot and narrow heel (duck feet), and would get heel lift (slip) with some boots. I thought it was strange that my cobbler recommended a tongue pad for heel slip, but I'll be darned if it did not work! The combination of the changed geometry and the tighter lacing with the tongue pad tightened up the heel nicely.

Let us know if it works for you...

 

[Luscombe]

There is a wealth of information on Ian's Shoelace Site that deals with all things shoelaces, knots, etc. and of course how to lace up to reduce heel slip. It is worth a read.

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Search all of Ian's Shoelace Site using Google Custom Search.

www.fieggen.com

 

[brandonboot]

I’m not opposed to going with Wescos either. In fact, I’d love to try something from them. I don’t think they offer a leather like I’m considering though. I was looking at going with either black cxl or black waxed flesh.

Black domaine or black tie they offer and you could get black maryam horse hide if you went threw bakers on your wescos

 

[klank74]

Black domaine or black tie they offer and you could get black maryam horse hide if you went threw bakers on your wescos

I’ve seen those options, but I want something with a tea core that shows through with wear. I realize horse hide will do that, but that’s a whole lot more money. I already have BH’s in olive waxed flesh and really like the leather, so I’m really leaning towards black waxed flesh, maybe with khaki stitching.

 

[andy b.]

Oh man, I hope it didn't come across like I was recommending Wesco over Whites. I just used Wesco as my point of reference. With regards to the general fit and heel slip with pull-on boots, I don't think the manufacturer really matters. Wesco, Whites, and a host of other PNW manufacturers all offer good options for engineer and harness boots. It would come down to your general preference for one brand over the other for whatever you're looking for.

 

[klank74]

Oh man, I hope it didn't come across like I was recommending Wesco over Whites. I just used Wesco as my point of reference. With regards to the general fit and heel slip with pull-on boots, I don't think the manufacturer really matters. Wesco, Whites, and a host of other PNW manufacturers all offer good options for engineer and harness boots. It would come down to your general preference for one brand over the other for whatever you're looking for.

No worries, I didn’t take it that way at all. To be honest, I’ve wanted to try a pair of wescos for awhile. With all the QC issues from whites lately, the Wesco Boss boots are quite appealing. The general consensus on the forums seems to be that Wesco’s finishing is a bit cleaner anyways. Still, I’ve been quite happy with my whites, once the QC issues were taken care of, and their leather options seem to suit my tastes and needs better anyways. I’ll get in touch with Kyle at bakers and see what he says. This may all be a moot point, maybe neither of the engineer boot lasts will work with my feet.

 

[chicagoan2016]

This may all be a moot point, maybe neither of the engineer boot lasts will work with my feet.

I hope that's not the case and you could get some well-fitting Engineer boots.
I have talked to Kyle about Nomads and he recommended I should stick with Bounty Hunters, packers etc.