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while i love the Kitons and the one Attolini i have (in the hard to find size 55L) i must say my 2 Luciano Barbera jackets and 1 Barbera 3-pc suit fits me like Barbera used me as their model for 54L. Â Just unbelievable to me that Barbera doesn't have the same demand or even close to the same demand as Kiton/Attolini. Â I was talking to a friend who buys from me and i was describing my mocha windowpane Barbera sportcoat and he said he had the same one and that it got more compliments than anything he owns (and he owns upwards of 50 Kitons).
I also recommend that you do the same for the other posts by other members (which you thought were making personal insults toward yourself) (I.E. RE-READ THEM. )kalra2411 Group: Members Location: Posts: 297 Joined: Aug. 2003 Â Posted: 15 June 2004, 1:52 Â Â -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I do not think that just because something claims to be fitted perfectly for you that it will be. This is namely due to the fact that they do not have as much experience, and hence the purpose of buying a off the rack suit. I would agree that a made to measure suit will, 90 % of the time, fit better than an off the rack suit. However, it sometimes can be the case that a made to measure suit will fit even better, especially with a few alterations. In addition, note that fact that fit is not the final word in a quality suit, and almost always a high end off the rack suit will be of a better construction and the fabric will be of a higher quality than a made to measure suit of the same price. Â
kalra2411 Group: Members Location: Posts: 297 Joined: Aug. 2003 Posted: 15 June 2004, 1:52 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I do not think that just because something claims to be fitted perfectly for you that it will be. This is namely due to the fact that they do not have as much experience, and hence the purpose of buying a off the rack suit. I would agree that a made to measure suit will, 90 % of the time, fit better than an off the rack suit. However, it sometimes can be the case that a made to measure suit will fit even better, especially with a few alterations. In addition, note that fact that fit is not the final word in a quality suit, and almost always a high end off the rack suit will be of a better construction and the fabric will be of a higher quality than a made to measure suit of the same price.I am sorry to be so blunt, but if anything it is people like you who damage the environment within the forum, with you lack of understanding of what people are trying to say. I can understand that it is impossible to convey true expression in writing, however if someone wanted to make a personal attack on you; they would more so go about it in such a fashion (note that the below does, in no way, reflect my personal opinion), Your ideas are entirely misconceived, you have no idea about anything, Made to Measure is not always better than Off the Rack. You are in America, you know nothing, America is the land of slobs, drink some beer why don't you. Do you want to watch more TV? You think you know how to dress well, but you just wear old man clothing, such as double-breasted suits, tassel shoes (of all insanities. ), and turn-ups. It is only because you are poor, and cannot afford Made to Measure, that you think it is superior. However, this is what I said, perhaps you ought to re-read it, and compare to the above:
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I believe that Louis Boston is the only store that offers Oxxford bespoke. I also recall that Kiton will manufacture the bespoke item and do all the fittings at their headquarters in Italy, but that the sartorial item must be shipped to a Kiton dealer of your choice for delivery.fopkid brings up a good point. Does anyone know how bespoke is done at kiton? Once the pattern is made, does the suit get passed through the factory process, or is the suit made more or less by one tailor?
How do the big Saville Row houses do things?
I didn't even know Oxxford did full bespoke.