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I have recently purchased my first ever cashmere sweater, from Alex Mill via Mr Porter (on sale).

Long story short, it has been pilling a lot. I have had it for about a month and I am finding myself needing to comb it after every wear. It pills if I wear it under a jacket, or by itself. At home or going out.

I know that this is to be expected for a new garment to some extent, but it seems excessive. It might be a defective garment as it is described as having been ‘pre-washed for softness’ and apparently some factories wash too hot which impacts quality.

Can anyone comment here on what is normal and what’s not?
 

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I'm not asking anyone to swear an affidavit, just to comment on their experiences.

If this is a subpar garment, I'm keen to work that out now and return it...
 

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I'm not asking anyone to swear an affidavit, just to comment on their experiences.

If this is a subpar garment, I'm keen to work that out now and return it...
Cashmere Hierarchy Thread would be best place to take this. I have an idea, but my experiences are at a different price point.
 

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Was just a joke.

In that case, consider me amused! :)

Cashmere Hierarchy Thread would be best place to take this. I have an idea, but my experiences are at a different price point.

Thanks. I found that one and posted there too. For my part, it's an RRP ~$600 garment, albeit purchased on sale - it's not Cucinelli but nor is it Uniqlo. I'm not expecting that I'll be passing it onto the next generation, but if I'm already worrying about it after 5 weeks, that is not promising...
 

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Danny's shoe repairs in claremont or bodkins Bootery in fremantle

Thanks all. I did get a half sole done at Bodkin's a couple of years ago. I might go pay Rob a visit again but will look up the others also.
 
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In that case, consider me amused! :)



Thanks. I found that one and posted there too. For my part, it's an RRP ~$600 garment, albeit purchased on sale - it's not Cucinelli but nor is it Uniqlo. I'm not expecting that I'll be passing it onto the next generation, but if I'm already worrying about it after 5 weeks, that is not promising...
Pulled out a cashmere draw, rather mixed bunch as it turned out. From Theory to BC, interestingly RLPL is a star and a shame. The RJPL cable is one of the worst pilers I own. yet, the roll neck of some 20 years is flawless. Theory is rubbish, no redemption. Cream Polo RL (15 years old, I think) holds up far better than contemporary Polo. Medium blue sweater by Brioni, not a piler, but the worst fluff bucket of the lot. Navy sweater by Rubinacci holds up rather well, little piling and a little fluffy. BC sweaters, not sure how old these 2 are, but only the most minor piling under he arms, similar story across BC. Last but by no means least, Dior hooded sweater of which i wear near daily while walking, near zero piling in stress points. An actual stand out.
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Anyway, to the question: it is a case of thread length, the shorter the thread the greater the piling and the shorter the garment life, I believe.
 

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I have recently purchased my first ever cashmere sweater, from Alex Mill via Mr Porter (on sale).

Long story short, it has been pilling a lot. I have had it for about a month and I am finding myself needing to comb it after every wear. It pills if I wear it under a jacket, or by itself. At home or going out.

I know that this is to be expected for a new garment to some extent, but it seems excessive. It might be a defective garment as it is described as having been ‘pre-washed for softness’ and apparently some factories wash too hot which impacts quality.

Can anyone comment here on what is normal and what’s not?
Buy knitwear from a real knitwear manufacturer.. piling is natural especially in the early days of a garment. The shorter the staple the more it will pill, the less ply will also pill more, the tension and guage will also play a part.

Could be a single ply, shithouse yarn spun by some cowboys knitted on 8gg.
 

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Buy knitwear from a real knitwear manufacturer.. piling is natural especially in the early days of a garment. The shorter the staple the more it will pill, the less ply will also pill more, the tension and guage will also play a part.

Could be a single ply, shithouse yarn spun by some cowboys knitted on 8gg.
My old Ballantyne‘s sweaters are the greatest performers. Contemporary Ballantyne’s, not so good.
 

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Thanks all, this has been hugely helpful. I also cross-posted to the cashmere thread, and did some digging online too.

The conclusion I drew is that what I got was sub-standard, either because of short fibres and/or possibly being washed too hot or for too long in the finishing stages.

Happily, I emailed the company (Alex Mill instead of Mr Porter), they said that this was unusual (likely bullshit) but offered me a return label and store credit which suits me fine as I live in their tshirts for summer.

Knitwear has always been a pain for me because my build is such that the smallest size of many traditional labels are too big for me. I’ve had luck with Smedley in the past, although they can be a bit fragile, and with Drake’s, which cost a packet. My best buys, by far, have been house label made in Japan knits from United Arrows, which are coming up on 10 years with few signs of wear.

I have gotten my hands on on of these, which feels promising: https://clothbase.com/items/3ef7b172_l-e-j-cashmere-mock-neck-sweater-blue_l-e-j

I had never heard of the label, but it’s made in Scotland, and the guy that runs it is ex-Drake’s, so hopefully using one of their makers. Will report back.

Cheers again for the input!
 

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