America is F*cked.

[tiecollector]

I think the women's clothes are pretty nice for the price. The mens clothes are kind of limited by clientelle I think. Men just don't care really. I hope they start hiring more designers for menswear like they do for women.

 

[Roy Biggins]

Yes, but men will wear what is available to them. Maybe the people who design the clothing should care, or know what they are doing.

 

[tiecollector]

Yes, but they don't just have Target available to them, they can go elsewhere that is perceived as less ****. They tried introducing some stuff made my David Bowie's designer last year. I think they need more fashion forward stuff as well as the frumpy stuff and then start to push the better stuff. Not sure why they don't do with menswear what they do with womenswear.

I think the biggest travesty at Target are the shoes. My god, they are awful (minus maybe the desert boots that people on this forum modded). There really is no excuse to not have better styled shoes, even if the quality is crap.

 

[Roy Biggins]

I agree. That is what I was trying to say. Low cost and budget does not have to equal poor design, even if the quality isn't so great.

Target actually now have a pair of shoes that almost look okay, or at least better than the Herman Munster shoes they usually sell. They are made of plastic-like leather, but I bet with some polishing tricks you could make them look decent. I think these were the ones I look at, but I remember looking a bit better in person.

All I am saying is that there is no reason a human being should be allowed to walk into a store, and walk out with an olive toothbrush holder that has palm trees all over it.

The only way to ensure that it does not happen it to start at the beginning, which would be with the designer; and the place where they should have learned to never design something like that in the first place.

Some people might think that this is all a matter of an opinion, but I think you have the draw the line somewhere; or else you end up in the position we are currently in.

People will buy what is available to them, no matter what it is. If you take options away from them, they will buy the next option in line because most people do not have any idea what they actually want to begin with.

Americans like one-stop shopping -- they love superstores -- they are the same people who go to the Home Depot to remodel their homes. These people are big marsupialed adults who will buy any garbage that is thrown in front of them -- why not make it nicer so they will stop pooring up the rest of the world?

From my experiences, some of these people even appreciate some unexpected help and learning that what is being fed to them is complete junk.

It could be very simple.

 

[buyer's remorse]

for those who couldn't make it past the 30 second mark, the video just continues to validate your sense of self-importance in what could be the most unspectacular circle jerk.

 

[buyer's remorse]

i also find it hilariously ironic (but not surprising at the same) that someone who whines and complains so much about design also looks like complete ****. i can't help but think he's just mad that he's not getting the business he want. what a sore loser!

p.s. perhaps he could learn a thing or two about dressing the part from this messageboard. and why the hell is he so goddamn fat?

 

[tiecollector]

Originally Posted by buyer's remorse

i also find it hilariously ironic (but not surprising at the same) that someone who whines and complains so much about design also looks like complete ****. i can't help but think he's just mad that he's not getting the business he want. what a sore loser!

p.s. perhaps he could learn a thing or two about dressing the part from this messageboard. and why the hell is he so goddamn fat?

The irony runs deep. I noticed this too.

 

[dkzzzz]

This video made me sad. This guy is talking about ugly utilitarian **** that had no soul or design when it was created, it doesn´t have any iota of it today either. So he concocted all this notion of 'cultural /aesthetic' significance in his head attached to that disposable crap and now sincerely grieving about American motor lodge cultural heritage slipping away.

This is truly idiotic sorta like watching 'Antique road-show' and seeing Americans bringing some 'big boy' gas station sign and trying to appraise it.

 

[hypersonic]

Great thread

This really comes down to an increasingly cultureless society .... not just American society but Western society in general. There is so much empty banality -- at all levels of society.

 

[hadecker]

Originally Posted by tiecollector

Wait what's wrong with Target? They are eons ahead of their competitors.

Like Walmart?

 

[tiecollector]

Originally Posted by hadecker

Like Walmart?

That would be the biggest one.

 

[jhao]

Originally Posted by buyer's remorse

i also find it hilariously ironic (but not surprising at the same) that someone who whines and complains so much about design also looks like complete ****. i can't help but think he's just mad that he's not getting the business he want. what a sore loser!

p.s. perhaps he could learn a thing or two about dressing the part from this messageboard. and why the hell is he so goddamn fat?


+1, I don't get involved in the "fat", but he do looks like ****.

 

[justtemple]

Though he is correct on ideaology, Draplin's design are slightly boring/uninspired.

I do want to buy a sign for ***** and giggles though.