Jacques Marie Mage - Wolves, Obnoxious Acetate and The American Dream

[DorianGreen]

We already had every now and then polls about the favourite frames in our collection.

Which are, instead, the most coveted models, the so called "grails"?

Mine are Fellini Seed, Ascari and Loewy (currently Devaux) Vintage Tort.

 

[Thin White Duke]

Not chasing any grails right now but intrigued for some of the teased new releases upcoming.
The VT seems so universally popular I’m surprised JMM hasn’t got wind of it and released more options.

 

[fmvazquez]

We already had every now and then polls about the favourite frames in our collection.

Which are, instead, the most coveted models, the so called "grails"?

Mine are Fellini Seed, Ascari and Loewy (currently Devaux) Vintage Tort.

Have two of those
I am happy with my collection, keeping an eye on new releases....
Devaux in Marigold would be nice though!

 

[RonF]

So, can it be that the pricey LF range uses “fake” or “poor quality” turquoise? The images you see are a very new Rawlins in Bloodstone. Worn maybe 6 times. No chemicals are harsh sunlight. I noticed today that one side has turned white, where turquoise used to be (both sides used to look like the first pic). It’s just fading (or peeling) away on one side, very quickly.

When I look up: “turquoise turning white”….I find this…

Because turquoise is a very porous material, it is vulnerable to environmental factors such as light, heat, and chemicals. Exposure to household cleaners, beauty products, and natural skin oils can contribute to color changes.

While the highest quality of “precious” turquoise is more resistant to color change, lesser quality stones are often treated with a process called stabilization to help prevent oxidation. Although this helps stabilize the natural colors, special care is needed to protect the treatment. This includes avoiding cleaning solvents, chemicals, oils, and heat, which can all contribute to permanent changes in your turquoise’s color.

Identifying Authentic Turquoise​

Color changes can also be a result of imitation turquoise. For example, when turquoise turns white, it is most likely howlite, a white calcium carbonate mineral dyed to look like turquoise. Counterfeit turquoise contributes to color instability, impacts value, and can even release toxins.

Surprised and disappointed, considering the price for an LF.

 

[DorianGreen]

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So, can it be that the pricey LF range uses “fake” or “poor quality” turquoise? The images you see are a very new Rawlins in Bloodstone. Worn maybe 6 times. No chemicals are harsh sunlight. I noticed today that one side has turned white, where turquoise used to be (both sides used to look like the first pic). It’s just fading (or peeling) away on one side, very quickly.

When I look up: “turquoise turning white”….I find this…

Because turquoise is a very porous material, it is vulnerable to environmental factors such as light, heat, and chemicals. Exposure to household cleaners, beauty products, and natural skin oils can contribute to color changes.

While the highest quality of “precious” turquoise is more resistant to color change, lesser quality stones are often treated with a process called stabilization to help prevent oxidation. Although this helps stabilize the natural colors, special care is needed to protect the treatment. This includes avoiding cleaning solvents, chemicals, oils, and heat, which can all contribute to permanent changes in your turquoise’s color.

Identifying Authentic Turquoise​

Color changes can also be a result of imitation turquoise. For example, when turquoise turns white, it is most likely howlite, a white calcium carbonate mineral dyed to look like turquoise. Counterfeit turquoise contributes to color instability, impacts value, and can even release toxins.

Surprised and disappointed, considering the price for an LF.

Wow, I can well understand your disappointment. Thankfully I'm not into that aesthetics.

 

[obecity]

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So, can it be that the pricey LF range uses “fake” or “poor quality” turquoise? The images you see are a very new Rawlins in Bloodstone. Worn maybe 6 times. No chemicals are harsh sunlight. I noticed today that one side has turned white, where turquoise used to be (both sides used to look like the first pic). It’s just fading (or peeling) away on one side, very quickly.

When I look up: “turquoise turning white”….I find this…

Because turquoise is a very porous material, it is vulnerable to environmental factors such as light, heat, and chemicals. Exposure to household cleaners, beauty products, and natural skin oils can contribute to color changes.

While the highest quality of “precious” turquoise is more resistant to color change, lesser quality stones are often treated with a process called stabilization to help prevent oxidation. Although this helps stabilize the natural colors, special care is needed to protect the treatment. This includes avoiding cleaning solvents, chemicals, oils, and heat, which can all contribute to permanent changes in your turquoise’s color.

Identifying Authentic Turquoise​

Color changes can also be a result of imitation turquoise. For example, when turquoise turns white, it is most likely howlite, a white calcium carbonate mineral dyed to look like turquoise. Counterfeit turquoise contributes to color instability, impacts value, and can even release toxins.

Surprised and disappointed, considering the price for an LF.

Oh dang. DAAAAANG! That needs to be address by Jacques. For the price, that shouldn’t happen.

 

[teddieriley]

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So, can it be that the pricey LF range uses “fake” or “poor quality” turquoise? The images you see are a very new Rawlins in Bloodstone. Worn maybe 6 times. No chemicals are harsh sunlight. I noticed today that one side has turned white, where turquoise used to be (both sides used to look like the first pic). It’s just fading (or peeling) away on one side, very quickly.

When I look up: “turquoise turning white”….I find this…

Because turquoise is a very porous material, it is vulnerable to environmental factors such as light, heat, and chemicals. Exposure to household cleaners, beauty products, and natural skin oils can contribute to color changes.

While the highest quality of “precious” turquoise is more resistant to color change, lesser quality stones are often treated with a process called stabilization to help prevent oxidation. Although this helps stabilize the natural colors, special care is needed to protect the treatment. This includes avoiding cleaning solvents, chemicals, oils, and heat, which can all contribute to permanent changes in your turquoise’s color.

Identifying Authentic Turquoise​

Color changes can also be a result of imitation turquoise. For example, when turquoise turns white, it is most likely howlite, a white calcium carbonate mineral dyed to look like turquoise. Counterfeit turquoise contributes to color instability, impacts value, and can even release toxins.

Surprised and disappointed, considering the price for an LF.

Think you should try emailing and sending pics and try to get to the bottom of it. They likely won’t replace anything (but you never know), but raising the issue may help.

 

[qubed]

While large turquoise is expensive, tiny cabochons that size run less than a dollar in bulk. I can't imagine they're saving anything by going fake, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're stabilized.

 

[RonF]

I’ll reach out to my contact at JMM. See if there is anything that can be done. But it’s definitely surprising to have this happen. For the price, I would expect top tier materials. Thanks for all the comments!

 

[DorianGreen]

The VT seems so universally popular I’m surprised JMM hasn’t got wind of it and released more options.

Yes, Vintage Tort seems to be everybody's darling and every classic in that colourway would be a bestseller. However I wonder if it's not its rarity a relevant reason for its desirability.

There has been a lot of fuss about Dealan and Molino in VT3, but, apparently, that colourway was not on par with the original VT.

 

[LuisedPicked]

IMHO the most beautiful coloring of all is Ash and Agar...
even Demi Tortoise is very beautiful

 

[DorianGreen]

Molino ?
What color is it?
TNX

Wanted answer your question, but it didn't come to mind. Now that you have mentioned it, I'd say that one frame is the Torino Ash. And yes, it's a beautiful colourway.

 

[DorianGreen]

IMHO the most beautiful coloring of all is Ash and Agar...
even Demi Tortoise is very beautiful

They're beautiful indeed, but it's always tough to pick the most attractive ones. I would add Hickory, Dark Havana and Argyle. Then London, Seed, Tan, Marigold, Rootbeer, Colosseum, Tempest...

 

[LuisedPicked]

Oh yeah!
Found, bought, and... replaced lenses

 

[DorianGreen]

Oh yeah!
Found, bought, and... replaced lenses

Looks great, also your custom lenses. A pity that this colourway is so limited.