The Official Wine Thread

[Manton]

2000 montrose probably only needs another 50 years.

 

[Piobaire]



A couple of days ago one of the guys at work pulled a blinder on us that turned out to be a Pinot Noir (that shall remain nameless) that had been one of Wine Spectator's top five wines of the year. Guesses around the table, all from winemakers/winemaking staff: Grenache, Grenache, Zinfandel, Zinfandel, Zinfandel. Tells you something...

The public wants this type of wine so I don't blame producers for chasing the market.

 

[CBrown85]

Sometimes taking a snapshot and posting it is less effort than typing out the obscure other-languaged name of the wine. REEKS OF EFFORT.

 

[Sterling Gillette]



Nice.

Good choice! St. Anthony also has a good version of a Pettenthal Riesling which is very accessible right now. They have started replacing some of their Riesling vines in Pettenthal with Pinot Noir because the climate has changed so much there within the last few years.

BTW, the current (German) issue of VINUM has a "pro/con" horizontal bottle storage. A Prof. at Geisenheim states that the humidity between liquid and cork is sufficient to keep the cork moist. He also says that storing a bottle horizontally makes the cork absorb too much liquid and become stiff (which promotes leaking). I still haven't made up my mind about all this (pretty much discussed among my friends) but will try to make some storage experiments in my new cellar.

 

[b1os]



Good choice! St. Anthony also has a good version of a Pettenthal Riesling which is very accessible right now. They have started replacing some of their Riesling vines in Pettenthal with Pinot Noir because the climate has changed so much there within the last few years.
BTW, the current (German) issue of VINUM has a "pro/con" horizontal bottle storage. A Prof. at Geisenheim states that the humidity between liquid and cork is sufficient to keep the cork moist. He also says that storing a bottle horizontally makes the cork absorb too much liquid and become stiff (which promotes leaking). I still haven't made up my mind about all this (pretty much discussed among my friends) but will try to make some storage experiments in my new cellar.

I've had Rieslings I like better but this one is very interesting. Nice interplay with the acidity. Got it for 15€ and have another bottle.

Aside from the (possible) advantage of keeping the cork moist, it's also a matter of practicability. Easier to store (w/r/t access) than vertically.

 

[drizzt3117]

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Hey pio, would you get the 2009 chaine d'or or 2006 SCM from stefania? I imagine either will have to sit for a bit.

 

[Piobaire]



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Hey pio, would you get the 2009 chaine d'or or 2006 SCM from stefania? I imagine either will have to sit for a bit.

You'll have to expand a bit for me. What's the SCM? Chaine d'or Chard, right?

 

[Manton]

Had a 1970 Montrose tonight. Still not ready.

 

[Slewfoot]



Had a 1970 Montrose tonight. Still not ready.

I'm telling ya, Bordeaux is friggin indestructible when well stored.

 

[Manton]

This was a big hairy beast.

Very enjoyable though. Great nose but intense grip on the palate. No signs of sliding downhill at all.

 

[gomestar]



This was a big hairy beast.
Very enjoyable though. Great nose but intense grip on the palate. No signs of sliding downhill at all. Great nose but intense grip on the palate. No signs of sliding downhill at all.

Moar from me tomorrow.

 

[drizzt3117]



You'll have to expand a bit for me. What's the SCM? Chaine d'or Chard, right?

2006 Santa Cruz mountains cab vs 2009 chaine d'or cab, on their current mailer.

 

[gomestar]

from last night. The no-label one is the 1970 Montrose.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

How much did you cop the 1970 Montrose for?

 

[gomestar]

the wine-of-the-night, to me at least, was the Krug. Wonderful richness and depth of flavor. I typically have a preference for the "brighter" Champs like TdC, Cristal, Salon, but having the opportunity to enjoy a Krug over the course of 30-45 mins. was really awesome. Would do again.

the P-F started out a little weak, if that makes sense, and then really opened up over the course of an hour. Also, at the start, i thought it was a tad hot at the back of the palate. One person (not Manton) agreed. After a while that aged white burgundy-ness started to show and it took on a minty and then caramely note. Very diverse at the end, consider me a fran.

The Montrose had that alluring aged wine nose to it, and like Manton said the palate was surprisingly tannic and gripping. Still, it was well balanced and approachable. I may prefer the '75 Montrose which I thought had a little more complexity, but that's just my memory thinking. The '70 still had some flinty goodness.

The Spatlese Riesling was excellent and ideal with desert, I suppose the only knock was the fact that it was still extremely young. Delicious now, but perfect in a few years.