Bespoke Trouser Pricing

[Crispyj]

300/350 euros for a pair of bespoke trousers is a fair price.

Most of the tailors I know charge 750 euros for bespoke trousers.

 

[aristoi bcn]

If you tell me how many hours of work go into a pair of trousers I can tell you what a fair price is. 350€ is a fair price in Naples but don’t expect this price in Manhattan.

 

[lordsuperb]

We are small timers….

 

[JohnMRobie]

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$2,200? My lord. There are some decent trousers posted on his page from time to time. Usually they appear when he posts with the caption that he was the one who made the sport coat in the picture.

 

[Marshak]

Yes, please let us know where you’re finding these prices. Although, if I had this, I wouldn’t tell anyone.



What is this based upon? Experience? Or your knowledge of the work involved?

Most neapolitan trousermakers will pratice this price locally, like Cerrato (@aristoi bcn can testify) or Voglio (with who I've worked) or Mola (around 350/400 euros). Of course they will double it in trunk shows.

 

[circumspice]

I would expect Salvo from I Sarti Italiani to be back in NYC in ~October. So far I have done 3 suits with Salvo, and the trousers have been spot on at the first fitting from the first suit forward.

I am not sure what trouser pricing looks like currently, but I tend to think it would pleasantly surprise those who have a mental benchmark for "Italian trouser pricing at NYC trunkshow".

I Sarti carries Italian books, so if you are looking for English fabrics, you probably want to secure those on your own + CMT. I have a cav twill and linen lengths from Dugdale I am likely having made up as odd trousers on the next visit.

 

[jonathanS]

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That’s called a scam lol. 2k for trousers? You’re paying for 5th Avenue rents at that point

 

[lordsuperb]

That’s called a scam lol. 2k for trousers? You’re paying for 5th Avenue rents at that point

There’s nothing remarkable about the cut to justify his prices. He also relies on an older tailor and clientele base. I would be interested in seeing how long he’s able to sustain those prices. They don’t allow room for growth to capture younger clientele who need a tailor in the near future.

 

[BomTrady]

There’s nothing remarkable about the cut to justify his prices. He also relies on an older tailor and clientele base. I would be interested in seeing how long he’s able to sustain those prices. They don’t allow room for growth to capture younger clientele who need a tailor in the near future.

I am all for market capitalism and believe tailors, like everyone, should be able to charge what the market bears, but there's a point at which prices become unreasonable and forums and discussions like this serve as a bulwark against such practices by tailors, especially for new or unsuspecting customers - case in point me. A few years ago I purchased quite a few bespoke items from a well-known Florence tailor who is largely known for his jackets, but among my commission were two pairs of odd trousers. Like an idiot, and because of COVID, a two year delay in delivery and my own stupidity, I failed to pay attention to the prices. 'Long story short I realized I was charged $2,500 each for two pairs of trousers. Another trouser maker from Naples happen to be in NY last month when I picked up the overpriced Florence trousers and he took a look inside and said in his accent, "dese pents look like Rota inside (okay, that was kind of funny), mostly machine". Being the nice guy he is, he held back on any criticism of the price itself. Okay, I am a little frivolous in spending on my wardrobe I'll admit, but I am not stupid. I am an easy-going customer and I don't complain about much of which I could legitimately complain, but on this I went back to the trunk show host, of which I've been a loyal customer for many years in NY, and and got a credit for my current commissions to make up for what I thought was way out of market pricing. Had I not been a reader of this forum, I am not sure I would have said anything about this, having commissioned many jackets but never trousers with this Florence shop; but I did so without even the slightest bit of compunction.

 

[worldrunner]

I am all for market capitalism and believe tailors, like everyone, should be able to charge what the market bears, but there's a point at which prices become unreasonable and forums and discussions like this serve as a bulwark against such practices by tailors, especially for new or unsuspecting customers - case in point me. A few years ago I purchased quite a few bespoke items from a well-known Florence tailor who is largely known for his jackets, but among my commission were two pairs of odd trousers. Like an idiot, and because of COVID, a two year delay in delivery and my own stupidity, I failed to pay attention to the prices. 'Long story short I realized I was charged $2,500 each for two pairs of trousers. Another trouser maker from Naples happen to be in NY last month when I picked up the overpriced Florence trousers and he took a look inside and said in his accent, "dese pents look like Rota inside (okay, that was kind of funny), mostly machine". Being the nice guy he is, he held back on any criticism of the price itself. Okay, I am a little frivolous in spending on my wardrobe I'll admit, but I am not stupid. I am an easy-going customer and I don't complain about much of which I could legitimately complain, but on this I went back to the trunk show host, of which I've been a loyal customer for many years in NY, and and got a credit for my current commissions to make up for what I thought was way out of market pricing. Had I not been a reader of this forum, I am not sure I would have said anything about this, having commissioned many jackets but never trousers with this Florence shop; but I did so without even the slightest bit of compunction.

Has to be Liverano with those prices.

 

[lordsuperb]

I am all for market capitalism and believe tailors, like everyone, should be able to charge what the market bears, but there's a point at which prices become unreasonable and forums and discussions like this serve as a bulwark against such practices by tailors, especially for new or unsuspecting customers - case in point me. A few years ago I purchased quite a few bespoke items from a well-known Florence tailor who is largely known for his jackets, but among my commission were two pairs of odd trousers. Like an idiot, and because of COVID, a two year delay in delivery and my own stupidity, I failed to pay attention to the prices. 'Long story short I realized I was charged $2,500 each for two pairs of trousers. Another trouser maker from Naples happen to be in NY last month when I picked up the overpriced Florence trousers and he took a look inside and said in his accent, "dese pents look like Rota inside (okay, that was kind of funny), mostly machine". Being the nice guy he is, he held back on any criticism of the price itself. Okay, I am a little frivolous in spending on my wardrobe I'll admit, but I am not stupid. I am an easy-going customer and I don't complain about much of which I could legitimately complain, but on this I went back to the trunk show host, of which I've been a loyal customer for many years in NY, and and got a credit for my current commissions to make up for what I thought was way out of market pricing. Had I not been a reader of this forum, I am not sure I would have said anything about this, having commissioned many jackets but never trousers with this Florence shop; but I did so without even the slightest bit of compunction.

Interesting points, I usually tell my tailor no if he quotes me something that’s unreasonable. He wants to make the sale so he comes down. If I’m being unreasonable in my request I back down and save up for another day.

 

[jonathanS]

There’s nothing remarkable about the cut to justify his prices. He also relies on an older tailor and clientele base. I would be interested in seeing how long he’s able to sustain those prices. They don’t allow room for growth to capture younger clientele who need a tailor in the near future.

I fail to see why one would choose him over logsdail if you want a tailor in america. I know other American tailors who have raised their prices as well using Len's prices as a justification. Low Information buyers (which even the vast majority of SF members are) believe that bespoke is bespoke & theyre all the same. They don't take into account a difference of experience, and that some tailors are truly masters of their craft.

 

[classicalthunde]

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Paola’s pricing seems high all around even for NYC…

Do we know if Paolo makes the pattern or is a cutter?

 

[JohnMRobie]

There’s nothing remarkable about the cut to justify his prices. He also relies on an older tailor and clientele base. I would be interested in seeing how long he’s able to sustain those prices. They don’t allow room for growth to capture younger clientele who need a tailor in the near future.

These don’t look like $2,200 trousers to you?

 

[lordsuperb]

I fail to see why one would choose him over logsdail if you want a tailor in america. I know other American tailors who have raised their prices as well using Len's prices as a justification. Low Information buyers (which even the vast majority of SF members are) believe that bespoke is bespoke & theyre all the same. They don't take into account a difference of experience, and that some tailors are truly masters of their craft.

Paola’s pricing seems high all around even for NYC…

Do we know if Paolo makes the pattern or is a cutter?

I worked with Paolo when he was with Paul Stuart. He had a loyal following when they closed down the custom shop. They made me some nice garments. His cutter’s name is Zino.