Things That Are Bothering You, Got You All Hibbeldy-Jibbeldy, or just downright pissed, RIGHT NOW!

[Fueco]

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[beargonefishing]

Maybe she was part of Jack Reachers super special uniformed criminal organization?

 

[Texasmade]

Maybe she was part of Jack Reachers super special uniformed criminal organization?

So she's also on PED's?

 

[beargonefishing]

So she's also on PED's?

How else can you safely conspire to conduct multiple extra judicial executions? Hate the game, not the player.

 

[ericgereghty]

When it comes to Paypal and their $600 tax threshold, I couldn't have said it better myself...

 

[Michigan Planner]

Random question for those who might know- is Special Forces a fairly wide designation in the Army, or is it very specific?

I'm asking because the security guard at the base was a smoking hot blonde with a big "Special Forces" patch across the front of her body armor vest thing. I just want to know how easily she could kill me...

I've heard it used both broadly and specifically. Specifically, Special Forces is a designation for the Green Berets.

At its broadest (from a US point of view), it means anyone in the US Special Forces command. While not everyone in that group is action movie hero badass, it includes Delta Force, Rangers, SEALs, Air Force pararescue and Tactical Air Control Party, and Marine Recon.

She could just be someone in a support group or the like that is under SOCOM. She could just be lying about her patch. Or she could be someone who completed one of the training programs, like Air Force Combat Controllers, which are 2 years with a >90% washout rate.

The point is, you should shoot your shot. You'll be fine.

It would be very unlikely to find Green Berets securing a base, they would be in some jungle advising local forces where they speak the language fluently and know the local politics and culture expertly.

"Special forces" spans a really large area and is not limited to the tier 1 forces, so the entire Navy Seals unit (not just Team 6) and the 75th Ranger Regiment (not Rangers) are special forces. There are 70k personnel under SOCOM command so it's likely that she is a special forces member, but likely not a tier 1 operator if she was guarding the base.

Is it possible that @SixOhNine is just illiterate? I don't think the Army has a patch that actually says "Special Forces" so maybe it actually said "Security Forces" across her body armor?

Each branch is different, but...

From my experience, the Army, especially in the past decade or so, makes it much much easier than the other branches to go to a school that would earn you a Special Forces patch, so it is very possible that this soldier earn the tab but isn't actually in a special forces unit. The Army likes to offer class seats to things like jump school or Ranger school basically to anybody wanting to go often as an incentive for re-enlistment or a reward for a job well done. For years now, the Army has also allowed you to put attendance at those schools right in to your initial enlistment contract so you would be guaranteed a seat after you make it through your initial training. The Army also allows you to wear the Ranger patch if you've completed the training but aren't actually in a Ranger Regiment since the Army loves patches on their uniforms.

In the Navy and Marines, it used to be that if you applied and were accepted into BUD/SEAL or Recon school and you completed the indoc, there was basically a 100% chance you would spend the rest of your enlistment (and probably the next enlistment if you re-up) in Seal or Recon units or in a Special Operations Capable unit that works closely with them (Special Boat Units (and probably some other units I don't remember) in the Navy or ANGLICO or MEUSOCs or RadBN in the Marines). You generally wouldn't see random sailors with the SEAL trident patch outside of those units. Marines have no patches, but there's a good bet that if somebody had SCUBA bubbles AND jump wings on their uniform, they are currently in a Recon unit. You only rated to wear those insignia if you were current on your qualifications. You might earn/rate jump wings in a few other billets but no unit except Recon is going to waste the time/money on keeping a non-Recon Marine current on SCUBA qualifications. A few years back the Marines began offering an actual enlistment option to enlist directly into a new "Special Operators" MOS so you could be guaranteed that training and then sent directly to a Raider Battalion ("Recon" was changed to "Raider" a few years back for lame nostalgia reasons) for your first duty station, but I have to imagine the stuff about jump wings and SCUBA bubbles still holds true because the Marines have always been very stingy about sending anybody to those schools.

The Marines also have a separate designation for Security Forces. They like to think they're Special Forces, but really they're just special.

Also, there is the old saying that goes something like, "The Navy has sent 15,000 sailors to SEAL school since it began in the '60s. I've met all 40,000 of those sailors!"

Lastly, nobody cares about the Air Force special forces except the Air Force.

 

[brokencycle]

Is it possible that @SixOhNine is just illiterate? I don't think the Army has a patch that actually says "Special Forces" so maybe it actually said "Security Forces" across her body armor?

Each branch is different, but...

From my experience, the Army, especially in the past decade or so, makes it much much easier than the other branches to go to a school that would earn you a Special Forces patch, so it is very possible that this soldier earn the tab but isn't actually in a special forces unit. The Army likes to offer class seats to things like jump school or Ranger school basically to anybody wanting to go often as an incentive for re-enlistment or a reward for a job well done. For years now, the Army has also allowed you to put attendance at those schools right in to your initial enlistment contract so you would be guaranteed a seat after you make it through your initial training. The Army also allows you to wear the Ranger patch if you've completed the training but aren't actually in a Ranger Regiment since the Army loves patches on their uniforms.

In the Navy and Marines, it used to be that if you applied and were accepted into BUD/SEAL or Recon school and you completed the indoc, there was basically a 100% chance you would spend the rest of your enlistment (and probably the next enlistment if you re-up) in Seal or Recon units or in a Special Operations Capable unit that works closely with them (Special Boat Units (and probably some other units I don't remember) in the Navy or ANGLICO or MEUSOCs or RadBN in the Marines). You generally wouldn't see random sailors with the SEAL trident patch outside of those units. Marines have no patches, but there's a good bet that if somebody had SCUBA bubbles AND jump wings on their uniform, they are currently in a Recon unit. You only rated to wear those insignia if you were current on your qualifications. You might earn/rate jump wings in a few other billets but no unit except Recon is going to waste the time/money on keeping a non-Recon Marine current on SCUBA qualifications. A few years back the Marines began offering an actual enlistment option to enlist directly into a new "Special Operators" MOS so you could be guaranteed that training and then sent directly to a Raider Battalion ("Recon" was changed to "Raider" a few years back for lame nostalgia reasons) for your first duty station, but I have to imagine the stuff about jump wings and SCUBA bubbles still holds true because the Marines have always been very stingy about sending anybody to those schools.

The Marines also have a separate designation for Security Forces. They like to think they're Special Forces, but really they're just special.

Also, there is the old saying that goes something like, "The Navy has sent 15,000 sailors to SEAL school since it began in the '60s. I've met all 40,000 of those sailors!"

Lastly, nobody cares about the Air Force special forces except the Air Force.

I'll admit, when I first read his post and saw the "Special Forces" patch, I assumed he was talking about a mall cop or something who had some costume type patch.

I prefer to think of @SixOhNine as special, not illiterate. Maybe we should get him one of the patches.

 

[SixOhNine]

Is it possible that @SixOhNine is just illiterate?

I want to be offended by this, but you're probably right.

 

[HRoi]

All these words and not one pic of this special soldier

 

[double00]

threak needs an ai accountholder to serve as the oracle of our fantasies

 

[Michigan Planner]

I want to be offended by this, but you're probably right.

Let’s assume you were just distracted by her hawtness.

 

[brokencycle]

Let’s assume you were just distracted by her hawtness.

You could have put a positive spin on it: he was focused on what matters.

 

[Numbernine]

Is it possible that @SixOhNine is just illiterate? I don't think the Army has a patch that actually says "Special Forces" so maybe it actually said "Security Forces" across her body armor?

Each branch is different, but...

From my experience, the Army, especially in the past decade or so, makes it much much easier than the other branches to go to a school that would earn you a Special Forces patch, so it is very possible that this soldier earn the tab but isn't actually in a special forces unit. The Army likes to offer class seats to things like jump school or Ranger school basically to anybody wanting to go often as an incentive for re-enlistment or a reward for a job well done. For years now, the Army has also allowed you to put attendance at those schools right in to your initial enlistment contract so you would be guaranteed a seat after you make it through your initial training. The Army also allows you to wear the Ranger patch if you've completed the training but aren't actually in a Ranger Regiment since the Army loves patches on their uniforms.

In the Navy and Marines, it used to be that if you applied and were accepted into BUD/SEAL or Recon school and you completed the indoc, there was basically a 100% chance you would spend the rest of your enlistment (and probably the next enlistment if you re-up) in Seal or Recon units or in a Special Operations Capable unit that works closely with them (Special Boat Units (and probably some other units I don't remember) in the Navy or ANGLICO or MEUSOCs or RadBN in the Marines). You generally wouldn't see random sailors with the SEAL trident patch outside of those units. Marines have no patches, but there's a good bet that if somebody had SCUBA bubbles AND jump wings on their uniform, they are currently in a Recon unit. You only rated to wear those insignia if you were current on your qualifications. You might earn/rate jump wings in a few other billets but no unit except Recon is going to waste the time/money on keeping a non-Recon Marine current on SCUBA qualifications. A few years back the Marines began offering an actual enlistment option to enlist directly into a new "Special Operators" MOS so you could be guaranteed that training and then sent directly to a Raider Battalion ("Recon" was changed to "Raider" a few years back for lame nostalgia reasons) for your first duty station, but I have to imagine the stuff about jump wings and SCUBA bubbles still holds true because the Marines have always been very stingy about sending anybody to those schools.

The Marines also have a separate designation for Security Forces. They like to think they're Special Forces, but really they're just special.

Also, there is the old saying that goes something like, "The Navy has sent 15,000 sailors to SEAL school since it began in the '60s. I've met all 40,000 of those sailors!"

Lastly, nobody cares about the Air Force special forces except the Air Force.

Talk about your elite units, my dad who had enlisted in the Marine Corps several months prior to Pearl Harbor trained and served with this unit.

Paramarines - Wikipedia

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[Hombre Secreto]

Random question for those who might know- is Special Forces a fairly wide designation in the Army, or is it very specific?

I'm asking because the security guard at the base was a smoking hot blonde with a big "Special Forces" patch across the front of her body armor vest thing. I just want to know how easily she could kill me...

Women aren't allowed to be "Green Berets" Special Forces. That patch is very weird, but it could be from an SF guy that was her man, and is no longer with us. She could be wearing it out of respect for his memory, and all the base knows, so she isn't questioned about it. Patches are questioned when you are claiming to be something you ain't. Sort of like Soldiers claiming to be "Rangers" when they only have the tab, and not the scroll.

 

[brokencycle]

Women aren't allowed to be "Green Berets" Special Forces. That patch is very weird, but it could be from an SF guy that was her man, and is no longer with us. She could be wearing it out of respect for his memory, and all the base knows, so she isn't questioned about it. Patches are questioned when you are claiming to be something you ain't. Sort of like Soldiers claiming to be "Rangers" when they only have the tab, and not the scroll.

That's not true. In fact, there are four female Green Berets.