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Stamper1924 · Oct 19, 2010

Some photos of my recently acquired Plaza Indy boot from LS. I thought it was an interesting variation on the Indy boot and I love the commando sole and it's very comfortable right out of the box.

I also noticed I'm not alone in my appreciation for Alden and Panerai.

Here's my PAM 90 on a Toshi strap.

GreatHighway · Oct 19, 2010

great Indys, Stamper

Ravello chukkas for a foggy day

joz411no · Oct 19, 2010

Does anyone know how close the tan on the Plaza Indy is to the tan vegano (Plaza Extra Perf Wingtips)? The photos shown above make tan calf look on the orange-brown (literally tan) side and on the Leather Soul site the pictures always come out a little bluer. Any ideas?

HorseHide · Oct 19, 2010

Let's get Tom some polish, the shoes he just listed on eBay could use a little TLC!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ALDEN-Shoes-Tass...item2eb0b9e107

PeterParker · Oct 19, 2010

Originally Posted by joz411no

Does anyone know how close the tan on the Plaza Indy is to the tan vegano (Plaza Extra Perf Wingtips)? The photos shown above make tan calf look on the orange-brown (literally tan) side and on the Leather Soul site the pictures always come out a little bluer. Any ideas?
As discussed a couple of pages back, I believe that the tan calf Alden uses goes by several names (e.g. tan vegano, burnished tan, etc.), but they're all the same leather. Any difference in colour seen in the photos can be attributed to lighting, camera, monitor, etc. The photos of the tan vegano boots I posted look browner/less orange than Mr. Moo's photos, but that's strictly due to lighting. Under sunlight, mine look more orange like the photos of the Plaza Indy's. I suspect that the extra perf wingtips from LS are made using the same tan calf as the aforementioned boots.

LeatherSOUL · Oct 19, 2010

Originally Posted by PeterParker

As discussed a couple of pages back, I believe that the tan calf Alden uses goes by several names (e.g. tan vegano, burnished tan, etc.), but they're all the same leather.

Any difference in colour seen in the photos can be attributed to lighting, camera, monitor, etc. The photos of the tan vegano boots I posted look browner/less orange than Mr. Moo's photos, but that's strictly due to lighting. Under sunlight, mine look more orange like the photos of the Plaza Indy's.

I suspect that the extra perf wingtips from LS are made using the same tan calf as the aforementioned boots.

Not true. The Plaza Indys are made with the Burnished Tan color found on many stock models. Tan Vegano is a different leather. They're pretty similar in color but the texture of Vegano is much more supple and soft in my opinion. The Extra Perf Wingtips were made with Vegano and so was the "Chestnut" and navy Saddle Shoes.

joz411no · Oct 19, 2010

Thanks Tom,

I'm trying to avoid, at all cost, that leather with the "painted on" color. I'm not certain what Alden calls that but I'm not a fan. My problem is almost all of my Aldens are special-orders and I don't really have a point of reference until I receive them, unfortunately. What leather is that painted leather called?

PeterParker · Oct 19, 2010

Thanks for clarifying that Tom. I had inquired about the differences a couple times earlier in the thread but received no response.

The pictures of the Plaza Indy look nearly identical in colour to my vegano tan boots and had me convinced they were the same leather; however, I have not handled the burnished tan leather so I was wrong to assume they were the same. The vegano tan calf leather is supple indeed.

nickmb · Oct 19, 2010

i usually wear a size 10 in shoes. aldens i wear a 9.5 b/d.

jerrybrowne · Oct 19, 2010

^^^Very interesting. Thanks for that.

jasonfoote303 · Oct 19, 2010

Originally Posted by PeterParker

Thanks for clarifying that Tom. I had inquired about the differences a couple times earlier in the thread but received no response.

The pictures of the Plaza Indy look nearly identical in colour to my vegano tan boots and had me convinced they were the same leather; however, I have not handled the burnished tan leather so I was wrong to assume they were the same. The vegano tan calf leather is supple indeed.

The new Burnished Tan that Alden is using is very nice. It's got great color depth and has that dark in the crevices kind of finish. It's not the old "painted on" type like some of the older ones.

pvpatty · Oct 20, 2010

Quick question: What is the size difference between Aldens and C&Js? I take a 9.5E UK C&J - Should I go for a 10.5 Alden?

Ahab · Oct 20, 2010

Originally Posted by nickmb

i usually wear a size 10 in shoes. aldens i wear a 9.5 b/d.
Welcome nickmb.

Your Alden sizing should depend on the last. My Alden size in the Barrie last is different than my Alden size in the Plaza last.

Ahab · Oct 20, 2010

Originally Posted by pvpatty

Quick question: What is the size difference between Aldens and C&Js? I take a 9.5E UK C&J - Should I go for a 10.5 Alden?
Hey bro. OK, this is a difficult quaestion becuase not only does Alden use different lasts but I believe C&J has different lasts as well so that complicates the conversion a lot.

You would be better off comparing the shoes to your main line shoe sizing like Nike or such.

I only have one pair of C&J, the Darlton Wingtip from Ralph Lauren, and though I wear the shoe a lot and I love it the sizing is not the best. I usually wear a 10.5 and I tried both the 10.5 and the 10. The 10 fit like a glove but I felt would have been too constricting all day. The 10.5 is a little loose but I do not notice it when I am wearing them. Not all lasts work for everyone.

If you find a shoe then the retailer, Leather Soul or whatnot, would be more than happy to work with you to get the correct sizing.

Good luck.

kanukki · Oct 20, 2010

To revive the natural chromexcel discussion... I'm considering going for Leffot's natural longwings (http://blog.leffot.com/reserve-orders/). One thing I can't quite figure out is why the Indy and PTB leather looks quite smooth and buttery (http://blog.leffot.com/wp-content/up.../DSC_0050.jpg), but the longwing appears rather rough (http://blog.leffot.com/wp-content/up...7/DSC_0033.jpg) in the photos. Can Jason or someone else who has seen these in person comment? Are there differences in the characteristics of the leather in these models, or is it down to the resolution or lighting in the pictures? Thanks!

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