Zegna Labels ID's for eBay purchasers (Graphic Intensive)

[Hawkoath]

Anyone ever come across this Zegna label?

 

[A Guy from Shanghai]

^^^looks fake

 

[Portabiti]

Can anyone tell me how old this coat is? I know that the Roma suit fit was discontinued - does this also apply for coats? Thank you very much.

 

[Quesjac]

Anyone ever come across this Zegna label?

Looks like a very old Zegna fabric tag (ie. not a Zegna jacket but made with their cloth).

Compare the seal:

 

[dreamspace]

Can anyone tell me how old this coat is? I know that the Roma suit fit was discontinued - does this also apply for coats? Thank you very much.

Well, from the tag we can see that it was made for store sin Germany. Further, Mantel means "coat" in German, so this is indeed a sport coat. 100% of my Zegna suit jackets say "suit" on the tag, while the few sport coats I have say "coat".

That fabric tag was introduced in the early 00's, and discontinued around 2015 IIRC...The fit Roma again was discontinued a year or two before that, when it was replaced with fit torino.

Could you post a picture of the Zegna label?

 

[samsandy082]

Hello everyone.. I recently joined this forum to ask about a Zegna suit i received as a gift from my cousin as it is too small for him since he gained a lot of weight.. well so its my gain... The fabric says "Trofeo" and it is a Full Canvas Suit .. Made in SPain I am posting the pictures along with the tag labels.. If anyone could tell me how old is this suit and the quality of it. I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

 

[dreamspace]

Hello everyone.. I recently joined this forum to ask about a Zegna suit i received as a gift from my cousin as it is too small for him since he gained a lot of weight.. well so its my gain... The fabric says "Trofeo" and it is a Full Canvas Suit .. Made in SPain I am posting the pictures along with the tag labels.. If anyone could tell me how old is this suit and the quality of it. I would really appreciate it. Thanks in advance.

Around 5 years old I'd guess.

 

[samsandy082]

Hello.. Thanks for getting back to me.. How do you figure out the age... Is there any particular # you check.. Also how is the Trofeo wool quality.. I have also heard that Zegna grades fabric by alphabets... How to check for that ? Thanks in advance..

 

[Wayward]

I'll have to say it's actually older than 5 years. While Zegna changed its fabric tag from yours to the new one in 2012, the Roma was discontinued around 2009. If the pants are flat front, then I'd say the suit is closer to 2009, but still older than 5 years.

IIRC Trofeo 600 is their top line of fabrics, based on a competition they hold/used to hold?. I think a Trofeo designation makes it below that, but still above base.

 

[Quesjac]

I'll have to say it's actually older than 5 years. While Zegna changed its fabric tag from yours to the new one in 2012, the Roma was discontinued around 2009. If the pants are flat front, then I'd say the suit is closer to 2009, but still older than 5 years.

IIRC Trofeo 600 is their top line of fabrics, based on a competition they hold/used to hold?. I think a Trofeo designation makes it below that, but still above base.

I'd be interested to know if you or anyone else knows anything about the dates or quality of any of the other Zegna 'brand name' fabrics, eg. cashgora, silkskin, micronsphere, etc.

 

[dreamspace]

They have quite a range of fabrics.

Trofeo is their "nice" range or regular wool fabrics. The 600 just means that it's a wool / silk mix. 85% wool, 15% silk.

http://www.zegnagroup.com/lanificio/tessuti/elenco
https://www.zegna.com/ww-en/editorial/made-to-measure/luxury-fabrics.html


Their absolutely finest fabric would be 12 milmil 12, Vicuna or Vellus Aureum. But those are only available through their MTM. I've personally never seen those in person, but I guess they have quite an outrageous price tag attached to them.

I'm personally very happy with the Trofeo fabrics. I have suits in high-end Loro Piana, Holland and Sherry, Scabal, and such fabrics. It's just as nice as those (in the same price range).

 

[dreamspace]

I'd be interested to know if you or anyone else knows anything about the dates or quality of any of the other Zegna 'brand name' fabrics, eg. cashgora, silkskin, micronsphere, etc.

I don't have any lists, but here's from their website: http://www.zegnagroup.com/zegna_timeline#/timeline/

Some cool facts, and some dates to different fabric launches.

 

[Quesjac]

I don't have any lists, but here's from their website: http://www.zegnagroup.com/zegna_timeline#/timeline/

Some cool facts, and some dates to different fabric launches.

Great, the timeline is very informative. Silkskin is 2005, Micronsphere 2004 and Cashco 1995.

 

[dreamspace]

Here's a list i compiled from their website:

1964: Launch of the 18 milmil 18 and 17 milmil 17
1965: Launch of the Trofeo fabric
1968: Launch of the Parioli fabric
1969: Launch of the Tindari and Palinuro fabrics
1971: Launch of the Zen fabric
1985: Launch of the High Performance fabric
1986: Launch of the Inner Mongolia Cashmere fabric
1989: Launch of the Trophy Winners fabric
1992: Launch of the Cashmere Double fabric
1992: Launch of the 15 milmil 15 fabric
1993: Launch of the Cashco fabric
1995: Launch of the Cashmere Comfort fabric
1998: Launch of the Traveller fabric
1999: Launch of the 13 milmil 13 fabric
2001: Launch of the Heritage fabric
2004: Launch of the Shetlair fabric
2004: Launch of the Microsphere fabric
2005: Launch of the Silk Skin fabric
2007: Launch of the Oasi Cashmere fabric
2007: Launch of the High Performance Cool Effect fabric
2009: Launch of the Worsted Vicuna fabric
2010: Launch of the Fabric No. 1 fabric

 

[lawsuit]

I'm glad I saw this thread I went back to an ebay suit search and I see some of them have an older logo.

It looks like ebay is the perfect place to unload old stock on unsuspecting buyers. If you're getting a discount how much does age play a factor? IE how bad is a 5 year old suit?