Who still wears a suit to work?

[Riva]

the boss doesn't need clothing to signal where he stands.

@Riva

This is why I find SF to be super boring nowadays. People just come here to find confirmation in their bland and boring choices of signaling equipments just to impress the middle to lower classes. The real powerful business owners never need to wear a suit at work. I'm talking about majority shareholders of top companies in Taiwan, US, and ASEAN. In fact wearing one is a sign of having to conform to some applied standard. Doesn't matter if you're a CEO or a prime minister you're still an employee of someone and having to dress up as mandated by the norm. Otoh the rich can also fall under the same silly trap of conformation.

 

[TheFoo]

This is why I find SF to be super boring nowadays. People just come here to find confirmation in their bland and boring choices of signaling equipments just to impress the middle to lower classes. The real powerful business owners never need to wear a suit at work. I'm talking about majority shareholders of top companies in Taiwan, US, and ASEAN. In fact wearing one is a sign of having to conform to some applied standard. Doesn't matter if you're a CEO or a prime minister you're still an employee of someone and having to dress up as mandated by the norm. Otoh the rich can also fall under the same silly trap of conformation.

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Why do you re-frame everything as a matter of signaling?

First of all, the whole underlying point of this thread is that suits no longer signal what they used to. If you want to signal that you're a big timer these days, better off in jeans and sneakers. I think everyone is aware of that.

Second, some of us have to work for a living and need to think about the professional/practical consequences of what we wear. Personally, I'd much rather wear a suit everyday--but I have bills to pay, a family to provide for, etc. So, yeah, I'll wear a Patagonia vest to work if I have to. I'm not ashamed to admit that I do what I have to.

Third, LOL about aspiring to emulate investors in top Taiwanese companies. You do realize, the entire economy of Taiwan is less than 40% of New York City's alone? What a weird benchmark for wealth and influence. Maybe you live in your own ignorant bubble.

 

[Riva]

Why do you re-frame everything as a matter of signaling?

First of all, the whole underlying point of this thread is that suits no longer signal what they used to. If you want to signal that you're a big timer these days, better off in jeans and sneakers. I think everyone is aware of that.

Second, some of us have to work for a living and need to think about the professional/practical consequences of what we wear. Personally, I'd much rather wear a suit everyday--but I have bills to pay, a family to provide for, etc. So, yeah, I'll wear a Patagonia vest to work if I have to. I'm not ashamed to admit that I do what I have to..

Third, LOL about aspiring to emulate investors in top Taiwanese companies. You do realize, the entire economy of Taiwan is less than 40% of New York City's alone? What a weird benchmark for wealth and influence. Maybe you live in your own ignorant bubble.

But we're not talking about entire economies but the top dogs of the country which I'm sure since you're so quick to dismiss you don't know any. Yawn...

Signaling using jeans and sneakers doesn't work everywhere. You need to go international bro.

 

[Loathing]

Riva’s idea of high status is inheriting a stream of monopoly rents from a corrupt father in a developing country.

 

[TheFoo]

But we're not talking about entire economies but the top dogs of the country which I'm sure since you're so quick to dismiss you don't know any. Yawn...

Signaling using jeans and sneakers doesn't work everywhere. You need to go international bro.

LOL

My family is from Taiwan.

 

[Dingusberry]

I work for a Private Bank where the only dress code is "always tie". You always have to wear tie, but you do not have to wear a suit. Working in a bank wearing a tie without a suit or jacket is silly, so it ends up that everyone wears a full suit or blazer. We also do not have casual friday. I am not in client facing role, and even I have to wear a tie.

 

[dfagdfsh]

lol Riva.

foo has a good point: we have to wear what we have to wear. I would love to wear jeans everyday, but I also have to hold a job, so...

 

[Riva]

Riva’s idea of high status is inheriting a stream of monopoly rents from a corrupt father in a developing country.

It'd be comforting to think as such. Alas...

 

[Riva]

LOL

My family is from Taiwan.

Your fam. You're a yank bro.

 

[Riva]

I work for a Private Bank where the only dress code is "always tie". You always have to wear tie, but you do not have to wear a suit. Working in a bank wearing a tie without a suit or jacket is silly, so it ends up that everyone wears a full suit or blazer. We also do not have casual friday.

That sucks bro. None of my PBs need to wear a tie. The presdir doesn't even wear a jacket during the last event. We really care only about how much net gain we get at the end of the year.

 

[TheFoo]

Your fam. You're a yank bro.

Missing the point. I’m familiar with the people and culture.

 

[Dingusberry]

That sucks bro. None of my PBs need to wear a tie. The presdir doesn't even wear a jacket during the last event. We really care only about how much net gain we get at the end of the year.

The boss pretty is old-fashioned. At least Casual Friday would make things a lot easier for everyone.

I think dressing, or sligthly above in formality, like the client is the best way to go. Wearing a full pin-stripe suit with Hermes tie to meet a client who wears fisherman's turtleneck sweater and rubber boots could scare him away.

 

[Riva]

Missing the point. I’m familiar with the people and culture.

Naw man, wouldn't have made such an ignorant comment if you do especially if you're in finance.

 

[TheFoo]

Naw man, wouldn't have made such an ignorant comment if you do especially if you're in finance.

No ya brah. Know all the peepz.

 

[TheFoo]

@Riva

Let's put it this way. Two statements:

1. The rich in Taiwan envy the rich in America.
2. The rich in America envy the rich in Taiwan.

One is much more true than the other. Which one?