What music are you listening to lately?

[ajax]

pink floyd. rip richard wright

 

[beefcake]

"The Tallest Man on Earth" ... errbody need to check him out.

 

[Dedalus]

Originally Posted by zupermaus

Hear this once and its imbedded in your head

Just Jack, Stars in Their Eyes 2006

I liked this with the bangin bass and without the rap.

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Originally Posted by zupermaus

^its funny how everyones into (or was into) nu-rave (the world practically dresses such nowadays - 80s retro, bright colours, hooded tops, etc), yet few know much about the original rave movement.

I don't think that people are ignorant of the original rave movement so much as they are trying to forget it happened. Big pants, glowsticks, Vicks masks, candy kids, jungle beads, PLUR - it was just a very unfortunate time.

Originally Posted by binge

I think what is considered the golden age is dependent upon the listeners age and typically coincide with teenage years as much as the artists and albums that came out at the time. For me it's about 86-89. I'd imagine for the next hip-hop generation, 93-96 was considered their golden age. The generation before me probably saw thiers as 79-83 or so.

That describes me well enough. Generally speaking, I've always lumped in all pre-90s hip hop as old school and thought of the jazzier more intricate 90s stuff as golden era. That was the sweet spot for me. The beats were soulful and they rapped with a swing in their flow.

Mmmm:

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[Artisan Fan]

CCR's Green River

 

[redgrail]

Golden age of hip hop is very late 80s-very early 90s (I'd say 88-91). That should be agreed upon whether you were a teenager then or not. I was barely born, and I can still recognize the quality of that era.

You've got De La Soul (3 Feet High and Rising & De La Soul is Dead), A Tribe Called Quest (The Low End Theory...imo best rap album ever, closely followed by Wu Tang's 36 Chambers) and N.W.A (Straight Outta Compton). If those three aren't enough for you, I don't know what possibly could be.

 

[Nouveau Pauvre]

Bumping the new TV On The Radio. Like previous TVOTR album's it's kind of unassuming at first so I will give it a couple listens.

Track 4 "Stork and Owl" is a real thing of beauty though. One of the best new tracks I've heard in a while.

"Death's a door that love walks through, in and out...back and forth, back and forth"

 

[binge]

Originally Posted by redgrail

Golden age of hip hop is very late 80s-very early 90s (I'd say 88-91). That should be agreed upon whether you were a teenager then or not. I was barely born, and I can still recognize the quality of that era. You've got De La Soul (3 Feet High and Rising & De La Soul is Dead), A Tribe Called Quest (The Low End Theory...imo best rap album ever, closely followed by Wu Tang's 36 Chambers) and N.W.A (Straight Outta Compton). If those three aren't enough for you, I don't know what possibly could be.
You make a compelling argument, although if you're going to include the Wu-Tang you'll have to expand your range to 1993. And, I totally agree that the Native Tongues releases of the late 80s and early 90s are classic. As for a single year, 1988 is hard to beat; consider other 1988 classics:

• EPMD, Strictly Business
• Big Daddy Kane, Long Live the Kane
• Biz Markie, Goin' Off
• Boogie Down Productions, By All Means Necessary
• Slick Rick, The Great Adventures of Slick Rick
• Too Short, Life Is...Too $hort
• Ice-T, Power
• DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince, He's the DJ, I'm the Rapper
• Public Enemy, It Takes A Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back

where It Takes a Nation... is often cited as one of the best hip-hop albums. But, although hip-hop reached new heights in 1988, I have a hard time omitting highly influential and classic releases of 1985-1987, such as

• 1987: Eric B. & Rakim, Paid in Full
• 1987: Boogie Down Productions, Criminal Minded
• 1986: Run-DMC, Raising Hell
• 1986: Beastie Boys, Licensed to Ill
• 1985: LL Cool J, Radio
• 1985: Schooly D, Schooly D

I suppose you have to cut-off somewhere and 1988 is the strongest choice. On the other end, the Wu-Tang's emergence strongly pulls us into 1993, as well does Nas and Biggie and later Tupac. Selecting a cut-off date might be trickier than 1998 as a starting point, but 1995 might be a good enough choice.

 

[Connemara]

Bob Dylan and The Band, The Basement Tapes. Pure magic.

 

[redgrail]

Wasn't including Wu-Tang in the golden age - just a gratuitous statement of my affection.

I was trying to define it as narrowly as possible, so 88-91 is where I landed. Three years where hip-hop really exploded into the myriad of different scenes that flourished through the early nineties. 88-95 is also a good definition, though much, much broader (and, hence, I would argue, less meaningful). You have 2nd generation artists (like Warren G following in the wake of Dr. Dre's g-funk...) and the initial punch of NWA is starting to wear off. Maybe I'm being nitpicky, but I like my golden age nice and short I guess. It helps me track the development of the genre.

 

[AntiHero84]

Any idea where DJ Shadow would figure into this debate?

 

[redgrail]

Waaaaaay too late by any standards, but very much still groundbreaking. In my opinion, Endtroducing was more of a revolution for the kids who listen to alternative hip-hop than for the hip-hop community itself. For that lack of ripple effect, I'll dq him.
Still, great album though. I was actually revisiting it just yesterday.

 

[unpainted huffheinz]

Originally Posted by redgrail

Golden age of hip hop is very late 80s-very early 90s (I'd say 88-91). That should be agreed upon whether you were a teenager then or not. I was barely born, and I can still recognize the quality of that era.

As a teen during that time I completely agree.

 

[clarity]

I like Endtroducing and I often play it when somebody else mentions it. But I end up never making it past the first few tracks.

 

[WE350B]

Ella - Spring Can Really hang You Up the Most ---from the Clap Hands vinyl...

 

[AntiHero84]

Originally Posted by redgrail

Waaaaaay too late by any standards, but very much still groundbreaking. In my opinion, Endtroducing was more of a revolution for the kids who listen to alternative hip-hop than for the hip-hop community itself. For that lack of ripple effect, I'll dq him.
Still, great album though. I was actually revisiting it just yesterday.

Fair enough. I always had trouble placing him in the hip hop category. Though I understand his contributions to the genre, his music from Endtroducing seemed a little more on the electronic side. It wasn't until just recently, when The Outsider came out, that I see how he really figures into that whole seen.

Hyphy still sucks IMO.

Oh, and keeping with the thread topic, I listened to Bad Brains on the way back from the gym.