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Also, how do we feel about these?
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Same as I feel about the various Sub homages, it’s a sub look a like for those who don’t want to pay for the real thing.
same situation here, in my opinion. It’s a Paul Newman for those who don’t want to pay for one (can’t afford in most cases, and in solidly in that camp). It’s pretending, not paying tribute, I’d just get a ”regular” Daytona and enjoy it for what it is.

but that’s just me
 

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Same as I feel about the various Sub homages, it’s a sub look a like for those who don’t want to pay for the real thing.
same situation here, in my opinion. It’s a Paul Newman for those who don’t want to pay for one (can’t afford in most cases, and in solidly in that camp). It’s pretending, not paying tribute, I’d just get a ”regular” Daytona and enjoy it for what it is.

but that’s just me
Most people can’t even get a regular Daytona without spending a fortune.
 

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Most people can’t even get a regular Daytona without spending a fortune.
And in that case, I wouldn’t get something that looks the part. My second or third watch was a Steinhart OVM, I got it because I wanted something that looked like a Sub but couldn’t afford one. I wore it for a few months and found that I really didn’t enjoy it at all, in my mind it wasn’t what I aspired for. So I sold it, and went for something else that I knew was it’s own thing.
This is a homage as well, and my reasoning for why I am not a fan of it would be the same (in my mind/opinion). Obviously, this is a few thousand steps above an OVM, but still a homage.
 

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It's not much of a tribute. Bezel is not metal, the dial is black not cream/white, it's too busy, the proportions are wrong... if you're going to get a copy, maybe the Alpha Paul Newman tribute is better value for money, and you get the bonus of watching people trying to swallow their reaction first when they spot the famous colour combo and then when they spot the logo :p

(or perhaps more acceptable to this thread, the Omega 3559.32.00 "Schumacher" speedie - friend has one and it looks great on black rally strap)
 
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I have always loved them so I can readily see the appeal, they just took a while to become popular I suppose because they are a young maker and very expensive.

They have dial layouts and details that are beautifully balanced and yet totally original, and generally the design language is different from any other maker, whereas other makers tend to copy each other or lean heavily on their archives. They combine elements of modernist simplicity and elegance with traditional details which is quite enchanting. I guess ALS is doing something similar but with a Teutonic hardness, whereas FPJ is softer and more organic.

My one gripe is that the logo is too big and there is too much writing on the dial and the case back. The designs speak for themselves and I find all that writing distracting.
Excellent post, from top to bottom, really a good summation. ?

I definitely agree with your last sentence. The Journe dials are often well designed, and the hands clearly so unique, that the logo/branding then come off as incredibly heavy-handed and awkward by contrast, a deal-breaker issue for me. My range from your "Teutonic hardness" to your "modernist simplicity and elegance with traditional details" would be from ALS to Nomos, I guess, never even getting on the FPJ bus.
 

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I quite like the Journe logo text and I feel it goes rather well with the overall design...

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- and I'm guessing that removing it completely (maybe photoshop to check) would leave the dial too sparse.
That is one of their most sober dials though.
I think the font is very appropriate, but I think the Invenit et Fecit is a bit too much/busy, so maybe remove that (middle image) and perhaps even slightly size down the F.P.JOURNE (bottom, but definitely not by as much as I did there :eek2:).

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Interesting, I did not know this until just now:
"F.P. Journe is the only watchmaker still based in central Geneva with company headquarters, manufacturing facilities, and an exhibition space with library housed in a converted gaslamp factory in the Coulouvreniere Rois neighborhood."
 
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