The Official RRL Thread

[zippyh]

That Todd Snyder western is $150 with code EARLY25 but agree not quite the same as the RRL

 

[biabia]

Damn... now I have a bad feeling. It was the last medium left at Bodega. But if the one I get is anywhere near that, it'll go back. Did you decide to keep the one in the photos?

Yeah there was a blue corduroy high slim last season I think, and it was made in Tunisia. I was disappointed in its quality too.

There's a M on Huckberry. 15 percent off in cart.

 

[Meis]

That Todd Snyder western is $150 with code EARLY25 but agree not quite the same as the RRL

Yeah. I kind of like it (moreso maybe in the smoke green) as a cleaner / less western-y western cord shirt option. That said I can never bring myself to buy their stuff until its ~40% off... Snyder is generally solid quality but it's just not (to me) at the level of their prices.

 

[MattBagg]

Hi all, I bought a used linen herringbone RRL sports coat from eBay. Upon receiving it, I was struck by how much worse it was than all the other RRL pieces I own. Are the Made in Italy (Caruso?) pieces worse than the USA and China pieces, or might I have a counterfeit? I'd appreciate if anyone cares to give an opinion.

The lapel width suggests to me it is fairly recent, but I can't find other examples of this piece on eBay, failed, or RRL's social feeds.

The sleeve buttons are non functioning, which I don't expect from RRL, but the sleeves have likely been lengthened (they are as long as the jacket, which is around 30 inches!), so that might have done then.

The visibly folded back fabric to make the notch (below) is something I've seen on Caruso pieces, but not RRLs. However, I don't have examples of lightweight summer sports coats from RRL. The construction of the lapel buttonhole looks low quality. And also note the weird long white thread in the left of the photo. I am guessing that is a remnant of tack stitching to hold the lapel down during manufacturing?

I'm also struck by how the "Made in Italy" on the collar is apparently sewn on last, so the stitches show on the exterior (below) when the collar is popped. I haven't seen this on anything I own before.

Overall, the lining is coming off in many places:

Aside from the Made in Italy and the breast pocket RRL labels having unexpected flaws, the tags look all reasonable and similar to others I've seen.

I'm using natural outdoor lighting on a piece that just came in the post. So to avoid being unfair to the piece, here's how nice it looked for the eBay listing:

I think of RRL as a quality (if a little too cinematic dude ranch Western) brand but this piece is scaring me off anything of theirs from Italy.

 

[Fenderplyr]

Hi all, I bought a used linen herringbone RRL sports coat from eBay. Upon receiving it, I was struck by how much worse it was than all the other RRL pieces I own. Are the Made in Italy (Caruso?) pieces worse than the USA and China pieces, or might I have a counterfeit? I'd appreciate if anyone cares to give an opinion.

The lapel width suggests to me it is fairly recent, but I can't find other examples of this piece on eBay, failed, or RRL's social feeds.

The sleeve buttons are non functioning, which I don't expect from RRL, but the sleeves have likely been lengthened (they are as long as the jacket, which is around 30 inches!), so that might have done then.
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View attachment 2070455 View attachment 2070457 The visibly folded back fabric to make the notch (below) is something I've seen on Caruso pieces, but not RRLs. However, I don't have examples of lightweight summer sports coats from RRL. The construction of the lapel buttonhole looks low quality. And also note the weird long white thread in the left of the photo. I am guessing that is a remnant of tack stitching to hold the lapel down during manufacturing?

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I'm also struck by how the "Made in Italy" on the collar is apparently sewn on last, so the stitches show on the exterior (below) when the collar is popped. I haven't seen this on anything I own before.

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Overall, the lining is coming off in many places:

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Aside from the Made in Italy and the breast pocket RRL labels having unexpected flaws, the tags look all reasonable and similar to others I've seen.
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I'm using natural outdoor lighting on a piece that just came in the post. So to avoid being unfair to the piece, here's how nice it looked for the eBay listing:
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I think of RRL as a quality (if a little too cinematic dude ranch Western) brand but this piece is scaring me off anything of theirs from Italy.

That little orange dot on the top right of the RRL tag usually means this was sold either as a second or a sample which could explain the wonky-ness

 

[fwedo]

in Europe, RRL "made in italy" jackets (yes, made by caruso) have other tags.

For made in china or more recent made in india RRL jackets, this is this kind of tag (and no inside pocket tag) :

just saying.
I am not expert enough to tell if your jacket is fake or not.

 

[Rorschach_9931]

in Europe, RRL "made in italy" jackets (yes, made by caruso) have other tags.


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For made in china ou more recent made in india RRL jackets, this is this kind of tag (and no inside pocket tag) :

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just saying.
I am not expert enough to tell if your jacket is fake or

nah, that's not fake, that's kind of tags were much older, like at least before 2010 around 2000s, Fender could be right, second or sample, i have a navy stripe linen sport coat from 2006 and definetly better workmanship than this. And the fit is also not like the more recent italy made suits, i m 38R or 38L or even 40R, mine from 2006 is tagged 38R and it has slightly longer sleeves and hem even longer than a 38L.

 

[MattBagg]

in Europe, RRL "made in italy" jackets (yes, made by caruso) have other tags.

Thanks. That's my experience too, but grailed has an "authenticated" piece (that, unlike my piece, actually looks like an RRL) that seemingly matches the tag style on my sports coat:

 

[MattBagg]

nah, that's not fake, that's kind of tags were much older, like at least before 2010 around 2000s, Fender could be right, second or sample, i have a navy stripe linen sport coat from 2006 and definetly better workmanship than this. And the fit is also not like the more recent italy made suits, i m 38R or 38L or even 40R, mine from 2006 is tagged 38R and it has slightly longer sleeves and hem even longer than a 38L.

Thanks, that's helpful. My working theory has been that the tags are real and old and were sewn onto a newer cheaper coat (which would be why the tag stitching goes through the collar) I just don't picture lapels that wide in 2000-2010, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[Rorschach_9931]

nah, that's not fake, that's kind of tags were much older, like at least before 2010 around 2000s, Fender could be right, second or sample, i have a navy stripe linen sport coat from 2006 and definetly better workmanship than this. And the fit is also not like the more recent italy made suits, i m 38R or 38L or even 40R, mine from 2006 is tagged 38R and it has slightly longer sleeves and hem even longer than a 38L.

dispite the inadequate workmanship i m still gong for authentic, this sport coat looks pretty RRL to me, i mean by the little details desgin, not likely older tag been swen onto other jackets,i ve also watchted this item on eBay but it was sold several days ago( now it is clearly you are the new owner) Lining coming off could be the fault by seller due to improper storage, for a jacket over 10 nearly 20 years old i m not feeling surprised about it.

 

[Freecard]

Yeah I think I remember you saying that a while back. I have a slim fit denim washed shirt, part of their core, and I can't button it up all the way without revealing the amount of blueberry muffins I consume. The sleeves are a tad short too but they look fantastic rolled up. I've just been wearing the shirt open.

The problem is no one does brown like RRL. Tecovas and Todd Snyder have an brown cord western shirt offering right now but they can miss me with that. I live in the Austin area but Stag on Congress doesn't have the medium, or else I would've went and tried it.

Agree that brown western shirts are hard to find these days. Not fan of corduroy but even denim is not that easy. So I figured out I should check on Vinted and more options over there, very cheap in brands like Levis / Lee, while waiting for the perfect brand new one, yet to be designed / released

 

[zippyh]

dispite the inadequate workmanship i m still gong for authentic, this sport coat looks pretty RRL to me, i mean by the little details desgin, not likely older tag been swen onto other jackets,i ve also watchted this item on eBay but it was sold several days ago( now it is clearly you are the new owner) Lining coming off could be the fault by seller due to improper storage, for a jacket over 10 nearly 20 years old i m not feeling surprised about it.

Yeah the back of that jacket makes me think RRL.

 

[WaltDud]

Agree that brown western shirts are hard to find these days. Not fan of corduroy but even denim is not that easy. So I figured out I should check on Vinted and more options over there, very cheap in brands like Levis / Lee, while waiting for the perfect brand new one, yet to be designed / released

A couple of seasons back, RRL had a distressed brown denim jacket and Mr. Porter carried it too with an "Exclusive" to them tag. Then they just disappeared off of the main Ralph Lauren site. Some store associate told me it's because it was exclusive to Mr. Porter, but other items that were also exclusives were still on the RL site.

Anyways. Fell in love with the jacket. I've yet to see ANY brown denim done like it. The closest I've seen is Mister Freedom's Ranch Blouse but it's a duck canvas and in my opinion, deviates from the formula a bit too much (which some people like, I guess):

So for several months, I refreshed that RRL jacket page every single day and multiple times a day and it came back in stock twice, one was an XXL and the other was an L. I bought the L so quick and prayed they send me a Medium by mistake (which has happened before) but nope. It's an L. It's a bit bulky on my but it's not terrible. Probably how it would've fit a real cowboy. I'm still hunting for an M. Absolutely the best brown denim jacket I've ever seen and felt. Their current brown denim slims that are made in Mexico are delicious too.

 

[WaltDud]

There's a M on Huckberry. 15 percent off in cart.

Thank you! I picked it up too, and I'll just return it if the quality control is just as bad.

 

[zippyh]

A couple of seasons back, RRL had a distressed brown denim jacket and Mr. Porter carried it too with an "Exclusive" to them tag. Then they just disappeared off of the main Ralph Lauren site. Some store associate told me it's because it was exclusive to Mr. Porter, but other items that were also exclusives were still on the RL site.

Anyways. Fell in love with the jacket. I've yet to see ANY brown denim done like it. The closest I've seen is Mister Freedom's Ranch Blouse but it's a duck canvas and in my opinion, deviates from the formula a bit too much (which some people like, I guess):

So for several months, I refreshed that RRL jacket page every single day and multiple times a day and it came back in stock twice, one was an XXL and the other was an L. I bought the L so quick and prayed they send me a Medium by mistake (which has happened before) but nope. It's an L. It's a bit bulky on my but it's not terrible. Probably how it would've fit a real cowboy. I'm still hunting for an M. Absolutely the best brown denim jacket I've ever seen and felt. Their current brown denim slims that are made in Mexico are delicious too.

I always take what SAs say with a huge grain of salt. There were several items at Mr Porter marked as exclusive that clearly weren’t. I’m guessing Ralph just sold them. That was kind of the height of supply chain issues. Mine was delivered a year ago yesterday.

Blue Owl has some sizes of the brown slims for $240 with code FEAST.