The Look goes on...

[covskin]



I have said before that you have to keep an open mind when shopping,if you write Next or M&S off as rubbish ( which a lot of it is ) then you miss out on the occasional gem.

Yep, found a very 1981 looking burgundy fairisle yoke jumper in Next last autumn, much acrylic but worth it for the look. Not seen anything interesting in Next or M&S or anywhere else this spring though.

 

[chinesealpha]

 

[cerneabbas]

Thanks for this thread. I enjoy following the other one very much but feel I am there more to listen and learn than to contribute, since I wasn't born til 1970. This is 2014 and I like to live in the modern world although my personal style is very much influenced/inspired by elements of what was worn in the 60s, it's more because those pieces are timeless; but how to wear them in 2014 without looking like you are wearing a 'skinhead halloween costume'? Today I am in Clarks desert boots, a short sleeved blue gingham button down, dark red cashmere v-neck, and rigid selvege levi's The only thing that would look out of place in a mod/skinhead's closet is my Barbour International jacket but I ride a motorcycle to work. I guess the point is to most people at work I just look neatly dressed/a bit boring which is fine with me.

I totally agree with your post,I also don't want to do the fancy dress thing,someone saying "oh your dressed like a skinhead",or even worse meeting someone who I went to school with !.
As you say influenced and inspired by the look,and subtly adapting it to the present day ( and remembering that I am not 17 anymore ),
Very interesting that you have gone for the Barbour International,when I brought the winter jacket topic up on the other thread,a few of the blokes mentioned wearing Barbour jackets ( and Cleav was wearing one in a recent picture),its funny how a group of blokes who have no contact made the same choice.

 

[cerneabbas]

The pictures that were put up on the other thread of the young skinhead girl have made me think,we have said the look goes on but is that true for the ladies ?.
Perhaps as blokes we are lucky in that plenty of the older clothes and shoes can be worn by us now ( even allowing for age),but what about the ladies ? is there very much that they can take ( or adapt) from that time and wear now ? if the answer is no then perhaps that's a reason why we don't see to much female involvement on the original thread.
I think that it would be great for the development of this thread if we could find a lady who was about then and is interested in style to contribute thoughts here,anyone agree?.

 

[Mr Knightley]

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I think the double monk strap is a great example of how the look develops. They were not mod or skinhead and I believe may be a fairly recent innovation, but teamed with the right clothing can give a great look. The secret is quality and yours certainly tick the box!

 

[cerneabbas]

Quote: I think that you are right about the double monks being a good example of the look developing,I think that the toe cap is quite well known in the look,maybe that gives them a link ?

A while back someone posted on the other thread that in his town Veldtschoen had been worn as an alternative to Royals as Lotus made Veldtschoen nearby and they were readily available and also a heavy shoe.
I didn't notice that he had also put up a picture of Veldtschoen,and I was unaware what they looked like ( I usually google any names that I don't know but I didn't on this occasion).
Last autumn I was in Ross-on-Wye,and I went to Herrings shop there and bought some Barker Ludlow shoes ( seconds) a heavy shoe, pebbled leather,toe cap ,derby,in a nice red/brown.
When I looked back through the other thread some weks later I found the Veldtschoen picture,well it was obvious that Barker had copied them same pebbled leather,same colour,same stitching on the toecap,even the same design on the sides.
So I had bought a shoe that I thought would fit in with some of my clothes,not realising that others had already worn similar shoes as part of the look much earlier.

 

[Cleav]

Mr Knightley thanks for your kind words.

As you allude to the double monk is a relatively recent development

Found this from http://www.dmarge.com/2013/08/essential-classics-monk-strap-shoe.html#.UydDG9za7x4

"The double version is the latest to capture the public’s imagination. Some point to Lino Ieluzzi, owner of the Milanese haberdashery Al Bazar and one of the Sartorialist’s favorite subjects, for popularizing the style that now it might be the most worn shoe at Pitti Uomo. Others credit Alexander McQueen and Yves Saint Laurent. And, like all good fashion statements, the monk strap has also been worn by Bond".

The monk-strap itself goes back centuries of course. Legend has it that the style originated amongst Friars in the Italian Alps in the 15th Century. It is said that a visiting English Brother was so impressed by the simplicity of the monk-strap he was presented with a pair and took them back to England where the style was readily adopted. (Taken from Dressing the Man by Alan Flusser)

For me the DMs above are less formal due to colour, the golf grain and the double sole and fitted the bill today.

Spoiler: Sorry for x post and crappy pic.

Yellow Tootal, Barbour Linen, PSmith Jeans and C & J Lowndes 2

I have a single suede monk also less formal and two more calf DM in black and dark brown plainly more formal.

"The obvious hallmark of a monk strap shoe is its lack of lacing. The construction of a monk strap is similar to that of a Derby or Blucher, with the quarters overlapping the upper vamp or tongue of the shoe, but instead of meeting in the middle to be laced the shoe is closed by a buckle and strap".

On the whole they are now established in between a slip-on and an Oxford. versatile indeed.

 

[covskin]



I think that it would be great for the development of this thread if we could find a lady who was about then and is interested in style to contribute thoughts here,anyone agree?.

Would be good to hear. Not a woman myself but I remember that early 80s girls often wore mainstream blouses, square-necked tops and the like under a cardigan or a more masculine outer layer and that the denim miniskirt look was taken across from the mainstream one summer (though maybe that look had cycled around from sometime previously). Also remember one girl in a tonic normal-length jacket and knee-length skirt two-piece but it seemed forced somehow.

 

[Cleav]

Also went to a specialist cobblers in Notts today. You can order MTM all sorts of stuff at under the radar prices. They're the local stockist of Trickers too, took some pics see below.

Also went into another shop selling all sorts of shoes etc etc they had a new Barbour suede shoe that was a clear derivative of the Clarks suede boot/Wannabe. The young guy in there got the reference too, respect to him. I didn't take a pic so just found this. I'd like em better without the stitching on the side but look great

http://www.allsole.com/mens-footwea...affil=thgppc&gclid=CPf-5Lexmr0CFZShtAodx00A0g

Again sorry if I'm off track here...

 

[covskin]

^ not off track at all but it is blankness for me so black and plain only!

 

[cerneabbas]

Would be good to hear. Not a woman myself but I remember that early 80s girls often wore mainstream blouses, square-necked tops and the like under a cardigan or a more masculine outer layer and that the denim miniskirt look was taken across from the mainstream one summer (though maybe that look had cycled around from sometime previously). Also remember one girl in a tonic normal-length jacket and knee-length skirt two-piece but it seemed forced somehow.

I agree on some of those 80s two tone suits for girls,they didn't look right to me either.
We talked on the other thread about denim mini skirts,I remembered girls making them out of old Levi jeans and Bob the Badger pointed out that the jeans companies had seen this and started to make the skirts themselves ( just as well because a lot of girls don't get taught sewing now).
I was thinking about your comments on another post abouit how tight the job market for school leavers had become by the late 70s,you are right it was very quick,anyone leaving school in 72 probably walked straight into a job by 78 it was a different ball game,add the punk thing to it and its no wonder the later skinheads looked different.
BTW as an alternative to the Loake 771 checkout the Loake Kempton boot,plain ,black and very smart IMO.

 

[kicksinstyle]

Also went to a specialist cobblers in Notts today. You can order MTM all sorts of stuff at under the radar prices. They're the local stockist of Trickers too, took some pics see below.

Also went into another shop selling all sorts of shoes etc etc they had a new Barbour suede shoe that was a clear derivative of the Clarks suede boot/Wannabe. The young guy in there got the reference too, respect to him. I didn't take a pic so just found this. I'd like em better without the stitching on the side but look great

http://www.allsole.com/mens-footwea...affil=thgppc&gclid=CPf-5Lexmr0CFZShtAodx00A0g





Again sorry if I'm off track here...

Those brogue boots third from the left on the top shelf look the business!

 

[covskin]



I agree on some of those 80s two tone suits for girls,they didn't look right to me either.

Just had a thought on tonic and 80s skinheads. You didn't really see it on 80s skinheads in my experience though you would see it in places like the Last Resort catalogue. I think this was because it was more the garb of the 2 Tone 'rudeboy', which was a fashion and not a revival of anything really. 2 Tone was a very 1980 thing. I arrived at skinhead from the mod/'rudeboy' direction and I remember not bothering to go and see the film Dance Craze when it came out as 2 Tone was pretty much dead by then. Seems to me that tonic was deprecated pretty quickly after 1980 because of its association with this passing fashion.

 

[Cleav]



^ not off track at all but it is blankness for me so black and plain only!

Sorry Cov, don't get what you mean? You not seeing the pics or your thing is black and plain shoes/boots only?

 

[Cleav]



Those brogue boots third from the left on the top shelf look the business!

Made my day with that comment, they were stand out in the whole shop. Think it was the sole that did it.

Notts also has a Doc M shop. I looked in the window, looked again to make sure I wasn't dreaming and walked away. They had basically platform boots and platform ballet shoes for the women!

Ho f hum!