SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[stuffedsuperdud]

I wonder if anybody can shed some light on a query that I have. I recently bought these trousers from Luxire in December:

https://luxire.com/products/vbc-_mid-grey_worsted_flannel_nov2019_599-101_513_vitale-barberis#/

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I am considering my first purchase from S&M and my eye has been drawn to a sportcoat in VBC medium gray flannel.

https://www.spierandmackay.com/vbc-medium-gray-flannel-neapolitan-cut.html

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My question is: are these two items made from the same cloth? I am colourblind so do not pick up on the subtleties of colour particularly well. However, I would like to know if I could combine the separates and make a suit.

Thanks in advance.

They are not the same. In the fabric description, your pants are a 10oz worsted flannel, while the S&M jacket is a 12oz woolen flannel. There are probably slight differences in depth of color and certainly a difference texture, which I can sort of make out just from the pictures. Woolen flannels tend to be richer in color because they are made up of a wider variety of thicker yarns all twisted together, plus the milling effect to fluff up the fabric surface will further add a richness that you won't get with worsted flannel.

Worsted flannels are harder wearing and more practical as trousers, but woolen flannels just look and feel more luxurious. Actually, as I write this, I am actually wearing a pair of pants made from that same swatchbook that the S&M jacket's fabric came from. It feels wonderfully extravagant and is delightfully versatile: worn with the matching jacket it is all business, but can easily match with an OCBD, polo, or cardigan for feeling put together while sitting at the same table as someone in a hoodie or t-shirt. Maybe you can get the S&M jacket and have luxire make you a matching pair of pants? For $200 it'd be a steal for something you can wear all the time.

 

[TBY]

They are not the same. In the fabric description, your pants are a 10oz worsted flannel, while the S&M jacket is a 12oz woolen flannel. There are probably slight differences in depth of color and certainly a difference texture, which I can sort of make out just from the pictures. Woolen flannels tend to be richer in color because they are made up of a wider variety of thicker yarns all twisted together, plus the milling effect to fluff up the fabric surface will further add a richness that you won't get with worsted flannel.

Worsted flannels are harder wearing and more practical as trousers, but woolen flannels just look and feel more luxurious. Actually, as I write this, I am actually wearing a pair of pants made from that same swatchbook that the S&M jacket's fabric came from. It feels wonderfully extravagant and is delightfully versatile: worn with the matching jacket it is all business, but can easily match with an OCBD, polo, or cardigan for feeling put together while sitting at the same table as someone in a hoodie or t-shirt. Maybe you can get the S&M jacket and have luxire make you a matching pair of pants? For $200 it'd be a steal for something you can wear all the time.

Thank you for the very helpful reply.

 

[OuterHeaven]

This might be a bit too early, but can you make sportcoats in brown houndstooth pattern next spring summer? Preferably in Neo cut. Pics for inspiration.

 

[SJR3]

Linen wide stripe shirts are pretty much my favorite shirt this season so far! It fits just like other shirts but the stripe and collar are such killer ?
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Holy lack of cropping, Batman! For a second, I thought you included a bonus photo of your faucet, lotion(?), and soap dispenser.

 

[spiermackay]

I wonder if anybody can shed some light on a query that I have. I recently bought these trousers from Luxire in December:

https://luxire.com/products/vbc-_mid-grey_worsted_flannel_nov2019_599-101_513_vitale-barberis#/

View attachment 1362373

I am considering my first purchase from S&M and my eye has been drawn to a sportcoat in VBC medium gray flannel.

https://www.spierandmackay.com/vbc-medium-gray-flannel-neapolitan-cut.html

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My question is: are these two items made from the same cloth? I am colourblind so do not pick up on the subtleties of colour particularly well. However, I would like to know if I could combine the separates and make a suit.

Thanks in advance.

No. The pants are worsted. The jacket is flannel. Similar colour. Very different cloth.

 

[MellonC]

@spiermackay is the Navy-Travel suit brighter than core Navy? Also, is the travel suit cut longer from what I'm seeing on the site?

Yes. I had to return mine because it was way too light. IMHO, it should have been called bright navy or something else.

I will say, however, that it the color could work for certain casual styles or for occasions other than a traditional navy is called for. Say a day time wedding, or a date, or weekend lunch or such. You get the idea.

I think this is the true navy - somewhere between deep dark blue and purple. Like this pic below.

 

[MellonC]

Yes. I had to return mine because it was way too light. IMHO, it should have been called bright navy or something else.

I will say, however, that it the color could work for certain casual styles or for occasions other than a traditional navy is called for. Say a day time wedding, or a date, or weekend lunch or such. You get the idea.

I think this is the true navy - somewhere between deep dark blue and purple. Like this pic below.

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Here is another example of how different shades of navy works with different skin tones.

Look at Wolf Blitzer(far left) and Sanjay Gupta (far right) From CNN.

You can see here that Wolf’s skin tone is so white, almost Larry Bird white, that it’s pretty much clear, meaning that only transparent thing is the blood in his capillaries; thus, pink. He looks great with his traditional navy jacket. Sanjay, on the other hand, was blessed with some pigments in his DNA, and is able to pull off a much lighter shade of navy.
(The British dude in the middle needs to re-learn his color palette, on the other hand)

Most guys think that you can create a color pallet just by matching shirts and ties. Not true. Your suit jacket is such a large part of eye perception that no amount of contrasting color on your tie can overcome a wrong color choice in your jacket. (This is especially true for us who do video conferencing daily now that we are working from home).

 

[mak1277]

Do the chinos have unfinished hems?

 

[pickergc]

new Bottoli jacket, with off-white polo.

Spoiler

 

[VahanJan]

For anyone who's missed it, there is new 20% sale going on for shoes, casual trousers and polos.

 

[James1051]

Here is another example of how different shades of navy works with different skin tones.

Look at Wolf Blitzer(far left) and Sanjay Gupta (far right) From CNN.

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You can see here that Wolf’s skin tone is so white, almost Larry Bird white, that it’s pretty much clear, meaning that only transparent thing is the blood in his capillaries; thus, pink. He looks great with his traditional navy jacket. Sanjay, on the other hand, was blessed with some pigments in his DNA, and is able to pull off a much lighter shade of navy.
(The British dude in the middle needs to re-learn his color palette, on the other hand)

Most guys think that you can create a color pallet just by matching shirts and ties. Not true. Your suit jacket is such a large part of eye perception that no amount of contrasting color on your tie can overcome a wrong color choice in your jacket. (This is especially true for us who do video conferencing daily now that we are working from home).

So pasty guys like me (and Wolf) should go dark navy and avoid the lighter navy shade?

 

[EddieK]

So pasty guys like me (and Wolf) should go dark navy and avoid the lighter navy shade?

You're a dog so I think any shade will look good on you.

 

[Proleet]

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For anyone who's missed it, there is new 20% sale going on for shoes, casual trousers and polos.

What’s people’s take on the polo shirts?

 

[up1911fan]

What’s people’s take on the polo shirts?

Nice, but got SHORT after a cold wash tumble dry.

 

[MellonC]

So pasty guys like me (and Wolf) should go dark navy and avoid the lighter navy shade?

You can decide for yourself by looking at Richard Quest (the Britich anchor in the middle of my pic) in a real navy color jacket below. You can actually see his face and not washed out like the earlier pic.