Sneakers With Tailoring: Yes, No, Maybe?

[Waldo Jeffers]

I agree that I'm living in the past. Again, I think there was something special about that old CM look, and I don't think this new dress shoe cuture results in something better. I'm making a normative argument and you guys seem to be making descriptive statements.

I respect the honesty here

I think owning your dorkiness is cool.

 

[Waldo Jeffers]

What's wrong with this assemble?

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nothing. If you wore that to a graduation, you would look totally appropriate

 

[Hellbent]

I don’t agree with DWW on everything. I mean I think that traditional oxfords with tailoring is fine. Not just with suits. But the chino oxford look is hard to pull off and, in reality, just shouldn’t be attempted. And in general, the item centric purchase culture is extremely inelegant and unsustainable. Be that watches or shoes.

 

[Mark Seitelman]

To quote Noel Coward when asked to play Dr. No:

"No! No! No!"

 

[TheShetlandSweater]

The relationship many men on this forum have to shoes is sexual and fetishistic. Shoes are treated as a beautiful woman to be lusted after and acquired. They are treated as an outside object to be consumed, not as an object to be integrated into the self. These men have no concern for whether they look good in these shoes; that is beside the point. Just as there are schlumpy men who seek beautiful women, there are schlumpy men who seek beautiful shoes. It is no coincidence here that the oxford is the most feminine shoe style. The shoe in many cases is a stand-in for an erotic partner, a stand-in for unsatisifed erotic desire. This need not preclude the possibility that the shoe-owner has an erotic partner, even a beautiful one. It merely means that this erotic desire remains unsatisified and seeks satisfaction in the object of the shoe.

 

[yorkshire pud]

I respect the honesty here I think owning your dorkiness is cool. To be fair, I 100% agree with you, he is a total dork ?

 

[Leiker]

The relationship many men on this forum have to shoes is sexual and fetishistic. Shoes are treated as a beautiful woman to be lusted after and acquired. They are treated as an outside object to be consumed, not as an object to be integrated into the self. These men have no concern for whether they look good in these shoes; that is beside the point. Just as there are schlumpy men who seek beautiful women, there are schlumpy men who seek beautiful shoes. It is no coincidence here that the oxford is the most feminine shoe style. The shoe in many cases is a stand-in for an erotic partner, a stand-in for unsatisifed erotic desire. This need not preclude the possibility that the shoe-owner has an erotic partner, even a beautiful one. It merely means that this erotic desire remains unsatisified and seeks satisfaction in the object of the shoe.

Dr. Freud agrees

 

[Jan Capek]

It is no coincidence here that the oxford is the most feminine shoe style.

I always found stilletos to be a touch more feminine than Oxfords.

 

[Waldo Jeffers]

Espadrilles are way more feminine than oxfords. Driving loafers are basically ballet shoes. Not that there’s anything wrong with ballet

 

[TheShetlandSweater]

The relationship many men on this forum have to shoes is sexual and fetishistic. Shoes are treated as a beautiful woman to be lusted after and acquired. They are treated as an outside object to be consumed, not as an object to be integrated into the self. These men have no concern for whether they look good in these shoes; that is beside the point. Just as there are schlumpy men who seek beautiful women, there are schlumpy men who seek beautiful shoes. It is no coincidence here that the oxford is the most feminine shoe style. The shoe in many cases is a stand-in for an erotic partner, a stand-in for unsatisifed erotic desire. This need not preclude the possibility that the shoe-owner has an erotic partner, even a beautiful one. It merely means that this erotic desire remains unsatisified and seeks satisfaction in the object of the shoe.

Isn't it green gatorskin seamless wholecut guy who seeks out teenage girls (of legal age and with consent)? Seems relevant.

I always found stilletos to be a touch more feminine than Oxfords.

The stiletto is a sign of *****-envy. Women desire to be male and wearing stilettos makes them feel taller and thus more male. We can thus see the stiletto as an erotic longing for maleness, as a desire to take possession of and acquire the masculine, and many men will find this attractive as it reassures them of their own erotic desirability.

Espadrilles are way more feminine than oxfords. Driving loafers are basically ballet shoes. Not that there’s anything wrong with ballet

I meant feminine in a different sense. You mean feminine as in resembling the shoes worn by women. I mean resembling women. Shoes have waists (we literally call them this) and further down the shoe we have the hips (see below). Oxfords generally emphasize this the most. They also have the longest lines. Most significantly, their closed-lacing system is a ****, reminiscent of the ******, and this **** can often open in the shape of a V which is also reminiscent of the ******. It is into this **** region that the man inserts his foot. Many men even prioritize a snug fit.

 

[Leiker]

Isn't it green gatorskin seamless wholecut guy who seeks out teenage girls (of legal age and with consent)? Seems relevant.



The stiletto is a sign of *****-envy. Women desire to be male and wearing stilettos makes them feel taller and thus more male. We can thus see the stiletto as an erotic longing for maleness, as a desire to take possession of and acquire the masculine, and many men will find this attractive as it reassures them of their own erotic desirability.



I meant feminine in a different sense. You mean feminine as in resembling the shoes worn by women. I mean resembling women. Shoes have waists (we literally call them this) and further down the shoe we have the hips (see below). Oxfords generally emphasize this the most. They also have the longest lines. Most significantly, their closed-lacing system is a ****, reminiscent of the ******, and this **** can often open in the shape of a V which is also reminiscent of the ******. It is into this **** region that the man inserts his foot. Many men even prioritize a snug fit.
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How do polishes and shoe creams play into this?

 

[TheShetlandSweater]

How do polishes and shoe creams play into this?

Men squirting creams onto a feminine object, sometimes obsessively and way too often? IDK, have to think about that one. And then there is the desire to really work the creams in and make sure they are absorbed. Men will often spend hours on this to ensure that they have done a good job and succeeded.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

The direction of this thread for some reason reminded me of this:

 

[dieworkwear]

Remember when everyone bought a deer bone and started boning their shoes?

 

[jack webb]

Dr. Freud agrees View attachment 1681003

But sometimes a shoe is just a shoe.