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k4lnamja

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Just some summer sale shoe damage... I'll let you guess the provenance.

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GORGEOUS :drool:
 

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I love my black cap toe oxfords.

From Left to right, Loake Ayr, Allen Edmonds Park Avenue, Tricker's Regent, Alfred Sargent Moore and Alfred Sargent Armfield.




nice comparison of shapes. AE is really the least good looking of them all.

Good looking comparison photo. I was waiting for the seemingly obligatory AE jab as soon as I saw the PA's in the line up. I still think people feel the need to poke at AE's simply because they are some of the most common and cost effective quality shoes around. Looking at this photo, I also see some of the most common jabs that people make at AE's being debunked. The Loake is substantially "plumper" than the Park Avenue, and yet, the Park Avenue is often presented as the poster child for being the "blobby" captoe. Also, the Park Avenue is so frequently accused of having too short of a cap toe, and yet, the cap toe looks to be about the same length as all of these with the exception of the Loake. I realize that often it is the combination of the rounded toe along with the cap that makes the Park Avenue look stubbier, while a pointier shoe can perhaps get away with a shorter cap. But, looking at the photos above, I see nothing to complain about.
 

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After some experience with the AE brand, I have only some quality and consistency issues, possible some styling indifference. The captoes don't seem as short as criticized I will admit. I do like the Ramsey styling best though.

Sorry to derail the thread...
 

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Its either Santoni or dare I say Magnanni. Medallion looks like Magnanni seleccion but the inside script looks like Santoni.


Bingo on the Magnanni Seleccion! I was surprised myself - I've never been much impressed with regular Magnanni - but these were a steal at $300
 

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I love my black cap toe oxfords. From Left to right, Loake Ayr, Allen Edmonds Park Avenue, Tricker's Regent, Alfred Sargent Moore and Alfred Sargent Armfield.
nice comparison of shapes. AE is really the least good looking of them all.
Good looking comparison photo. I was waiting for the seemingly obligatory AE jab as soon as I saw the PA's in the line up. I still think people feel the need to poke at AE's simply because they are some of the most common and cost effective quality shoes around. Looking at this photo, I also see some of the most common jabs that people make at AE's being debunked. The Loake is substantially "plumper" than the Park Avenue, and yet, the Park Avenue is often presented as the poster child for being the "blobby" captoe. Also, the Park Avenue is so frequently accused of having too short of a cap toe, and yet, the cap toe looks to be about the same length as all of these with the exception of the Loake. I realize that often it is the combination of the rounded toe along with the cap that makes the Park Avenue look stubbier, while a pointier shoe can perhaps get away with a shorter cap. But, looking at the photos above, I see nothing to complain about.
To be fair, the Loake is wide G fitting, while the others are UK F and AE E. Personally, I am totally with your point of quality and design for PA, and have no reservations with wearing them any day. However, I think people dislike PA due to its overall proportions, not only it has a more symmetrical round toe with a short cap as you mentioned, the entire body is most tubular from the top view, no curves around ball of the feet; and least slimming of the waist from the side view, which attribute to its tube look. So some people find them not as elegant.
 
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