Random fashion thoughts - Part II (A New Hope)

[pickpackpockpuck]



I agree but... Vetements saving grace is that it's just plain ugly and messy, all over the place and (slightly) off. Hedi is all about control and is basically in the repro business. Both labels probably take themselves way too seriously but SLP is also terminally soul-sucking

Yeah, that's true. And to be honest, the little I've seen of Vetements in stores I've liked well enough. At least it's different from a lot of the rest. And I am curious to see what he does at Balenciaga. It's not a boring appointment, that's for sure. Don't expect it to be like Vetements really. He was apparently a senior designer at LV for a few years so it proves he can work from a luxury POV. But I'm sure he'll be thinking of ways to have some fun with people's expectations. Who knows, could make for something great.

 

[shoreman1782]

anyone mess with Camoshita? What's sizing like? Anywhere stocking it in LA? Thanks

Size is pretty true, IMO--I wear a 52 jacket, 52/L knits, 41 shirt (and I'm usually an EU52/US42, L, 16/34). It's not a "size up because it's made for Japan" brand. No Man Walks Alone is a good source. Carson Street also carries. I thought Union Made had it but I don't see any on their site right now and I'm not sure if they'd have much in store anyway. Stuff pops up on yoox and Barneys, too.

One of my favorite brands. You don't see Camoshita's colors/patterns a lot elsewhere. It's like, harmoniously ugly.

 

[Mulan]

Camoshita had a beautiful balmaacan in herringbone the last two years. Too bad no one seems to have carried it.

 

[notwithit]



kind of liking the new jack purcells waterproof 'jungle cloth'

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

I'm kind of liking the absence of a contrast stripe on the toe.

 

[venividivicibj]

I'm kind of liking the absence of a contrast stripe on the toe.

The smiley face? haha

 

[zissou]

Why do shops even think that an email that says "972 new items in our store" will even entice me to go wade through them?

 

[Bam!ChairDance]

You've given me an idea, though. For my online store, I'm going to set up a ball pit in some retail space and tape a photo of each new arrival on a separate ball. Now you can literally wade through a pit of new arrivals. Have fun.

 

[toothsomesound]



I agree but... Vetements saving grace is that it's just plain ugly and messy, all over the place and (slightly) off. Hedi is all about control and is basically in the repro business. Both labels probably take themselves way too seriously but SLP is also terminally soul-sucking

here's where i think we disagree; i think vetements has a great sense of humor and can be really clever.

i think the 'collar' turtleneck is amazing. it's not only great marketing/merchandising, it's also a little semiotic game.

i also like the branding and how 'overtly commercial' it is. there's no pretense, it's just doing it's thing. the idea that fashion brands are somehow like subversive little islands divorced from the need to make money and establish brand cache is pretty silly and naive.

also marc i prefer the vetements remade bomber to the undercover one sorry. the undercover one is is basically a cocoon coat with bomber details. the vetements one is super weird. it's not just a big bomber, it wouldn't look like that. the proportions are completely skewed and not just because one sleeve is longer than the other. i dunno, the undercover one seems more wearable, it seems more like a semi-believable item of clothing a person would realistically pay money for but it's so warped it's kind of not a bomber jacket anymore. the vetements one is like a fun-house version of a vintage bomber yet it feels more like a bomber than the undercover one does.

also i have no problem with designers basically reproducing vintage. that's what most designers actually end up doing anyway but they change small details and obviously they use different materials unless they're in the 'remake' business which is mostly pretty prohibitive in terms of cost and quantity, it's kind of a different realm. i don't know what the vetements sampling and production process is but some of it looks like actual remade vintage (also something raf did) and some of it seems like repro stuff. saint laurent is obviously fabricated from scratch with luxury materials.

 

[LA Guy]

Why do shops even think that an email that says "972 new items in our store" will even entice me to go wade through them?

It does to me. 972 items is just 10 pages, even at only 100 items per page, and these days, being about to scan 250 products at a time is pretty common. It's worth my while a lot more than seeing a dozen new products. At very least, the likelihood that I'll find something I'll actually be interested in is statistically much higher.

 

[notwithit]



The smiley face? haha

Yeah, not a fan. Might have something to do with what a bitter person I am.

 

[LA Guy]

hey guys...haven't posted in a while, but was there ever any resolution to the whole "auto play video ad" thing? just started browsing again and this site is literally unusable when i get multiple video ads auto playing audio every time i load a page

This should not be happening - but we use a cascading set of networks, and usually, the problem is from the advertiser (not network) side. Advertisers will sometimes spoof scripts, sometimes categorize their ads, either deliberately, or just because someone click on the wrong button. Please help us by click through on a safe browser (we have had just 1 incidence of clickthrough to malware in the 5 years we've been on this platform, since we only use the top tier networks.) and send the link? You can send to [email protected] and I will immediately send it on to our network ad ops team. They will make those a priority and get it fixed, typically in hours.

Helps other users too.

Cheers,

Fok.

 

[bosatlbwi]

thanks, will do. just didn't want to inundate you with emails if there had been some type of resolution in the 6 months i've been gone.

 

[Pangolin]



here's where i think we disagree; i think vetements has a great sense of humor and can be really clever.

i think the 'collar' turtleneck is amazing. it's not only great marketing/merchandising, it's also a little semiotic game.

i also like the branding and how 'overtly commercial' it is. there's no pretense, it's just doing it's thing. the idea that fashion brands are somehow like subversive little islands divorced from the need to make money and establish brand cache is pretty silly and naive.

also marc i prefer the vetements remade bomber to the undercover one sorry. the undercover one is is basically a cocoon coat with bomber details. the vetements one is super weird. it's not just a big bomber, it wouldn't look like that. the proportions are completely skewed and not just because one sleeve is longer than the other. i dunno, the undercover one seems more wearable, it seems more like a semi-believable item of clothing a person would realistically pay money for but it's so warped it's kind of not a bomber jacket anymore. the vetements one is like a fun-house version of a vintage bomber yet it feels more like a bomber than the undercover one does.

also i have no problem with designers basically reproducing vintage. that's what most designers actually end up doing anyway but they change small details and obviously they use different materials unless they're in the 'remake' business which is mostly pretty prohibitive in terms of cost and quantity, it's kind of a different realm. i don't know what the vetements sampling and production process is but some of it looks like actual remade vintage (also something raf did) and some of it seems like repro stuff. saint laurent is obviously fabricated from scratch with luxury materials.

To an extent, this sounds more like a description of Bless than Vetements to me.

 

[toothsomesound]

what do you mean?

 

[notwithit]



To an extent, this sounds more like a description of Bless than Vetements to me.

Apropos of nothing, pangolins are awesome.