Random fashion thoughts - Part II (A New Hope)

[Bam!ChairDance]



Speaking of grailed...


http://www.sz-mag.com/news/2016/04/op-ed-how-grailed-is-killing-the-menswear-avant-garde/

Wow you can really feel his pain here. Poor dude would be so much happier if he knew he could appreciate things without first taking huge unnecessary pains to acquire them

Like, I dunno, someone send him photos of that $30 desk lamp you can't part with because the chrome-colored plastic has chipped in a way that resembles your dog.

Or maybe Lenny Kravitz should call him up and talk about all the SZ posts he had to write before he could own Rick Owens pieces.

 

[Meis]



Might have had autopurchase checked.

huh? Do you mean buy-it-now? He didn't buy it for the amount listed, but for the amount he had sent as the offer (which I hadn't accepted) so buy-it-now wouldn't apply.

1. are you sure it's from grailed and not a phishing email?
2. did anything about your listing change before/after getting that email?

Doesn't seem as if anything has changed. The $ went through, the only questionable thing I can see is that the ship-to is different from the name on the paypal account.

 

[ghdvfddzgzdzg]



Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but one of my favorite sweaters was washed with normal laundry and is now pretty much ruined.

Anyone know if these exist anywhere in a medium?
http://www.norseprojects.com/store/mens-aw15/knitwear/aw15-lauge-merino-waffle-knit

along w/ trying to hunt it down, you could try cold soaking it and stretching it back to size.

 

[melonadejello]



huh? Do you mean buy-it-now? He didn't buy it for the amount listed, but for the amount he had sent as the offer (which I hadn't accepted) so buy-it-now wouldn't apply.
Doesn't seem as if anything has changed. The $ went through, the only questionable thing I can see is that the ship-to is different from the name on the paypal account.

Isn't there a box to auto-accept offers over a certain amount now? I think I remember seeing that last time I made a listing

 

[nahneun]



Wow you can really feel his pain here. Poor dude would be so much happier if he knew he could appreciate things without first taking huge unnecessary pains to acquire them

Like, I dunno, someone send him photos of that $30 desk lamp you can't part with because the chrome-colored plastic has chipped in a way that resembles your dog.

Or maybe Lenny Kravitz should call him up and talk about all the SZ posts he had to write before he could own Rick Owens pieces.

faust is such a terrible writer. it's like he never graduated from thinking beyond a freshman in high school.

 

[shoreman1782]

For all the pains SZ types take to differentiate themselves from the herds of normals, they sure seem to apply the same kind of exclusivity-as-value logic as Robb Report suit wearing douchebags.

 

[nahneun]

it's because there's a **** ton of pseudo-intellectual masturbation going on there.

 

[Whirling]

I am offering 80% off on stones to all SF members who live in glass houses.

 

[accordion]

faust has an extremely academic prose that really has no place in fashion writing, it reads like a sample prompt for a college essay. Shows zero flair, like he's an angry grandfather berating children.

 

[nahneun]



faust has an extremely academic prose that really has no place in fashion writing, it reads like a sample prompt for a college essay. Shows zero flair, like he's an angry grandfather berating children.

i disagree. his writing is flat and boring, but not academic.

@Whirling. I'll take two. One to break my house, and the other to break yours.

 

[LA Guy]

i disagree. his writing is flat and boring, but not academic.

This. While there is certainly a lot of boring, flat, academic writing, and it's even indirectly encouraged in the name of precision, academic writing is not necessarily boring. There is still a lot of good, engaging, even fun (nah, I'm going to far, that's a straight up lie) academic writing. This from someone who has spent a lot of his life reading academic papers.

And while I have serious issue with the way that Grailed exploited Styleforum and other forums to promote his (obviously commercial) venture, in complete, illegal, violation of our ToS, I think that Grailed, itself, is a pretty sound idea. Probably precisely for the reasons that Faust hates it. It doesn't democratize fashion, but it allows a range of styles to exist in a marketplace that is, as much as possible, free of bias towards any particular style. And that, imo, is good for guys who like fashion, because it decontextualizes brands and pieces and allows the person looking at pieces to make up their own style, think up their own combinations.

I mean, there is no specific reason that Guidi or MA+ or whatever footwear has to be paired with Layer-0 tops and BBS pants, or that you can't wear all of those brands with some SLP jodphurs, or that you can't wear Guidi chukkas with workwear (I could see @ManofKent pulling this off really well, actually. We think that certain brands "work together" mainly because they've been marketed that way to us, and we see these images over and over.

 

[LA Guy]

faust has an extremely academic prose that really has no place in fashion writing, it reads like a sample prompt for a college essay. Shows zero flair, like he's an angry grandfather berating children.

That's not academic writing, just fww.

 

[accordion]

I would think that academic prose means adopting the most neutral tone possible, and writing in the most transparent manner possible to get ideas across clearly, which is how I read him.

FWIW I'm not saying there's no fun in academia, but that the academic prose in how it's taught and judged is what I describe. It may be unfair because he probably doesn't have a writing background and also owns the magazine he writes for so he's never had to compete with anyone.

 

[Synthese]

It's not a good article, but the point he makes (at least, conditioning the consumer to expect lower and lower deals) is fair. It's just not new, or limited to grailed...or to fashion...or to anything, really. Grailed is an extension (and affirmation) of an existing culture - their users came from somewhere (SF, SZ, SUFU), and very quickly.

Thing is, fashion's more accessible than ever, but is still enough of a niche interest that everyone feels like an insider (and expects insider deals). Seems more like the article's taking issue with the idea that people who don't meet Eugene's criteria for being worthy and authentic are buying clothes he likes. Unfortunately, there's nothing new there either.

 

[sinnedk]



This.  While there is certainly a lot of boring, flat, academic writing, and it's even indirectly encouraged in the name of precision, academic writing is not necessarily boring.  There is still a lot of good, engaging, even fun (nah, I'm going to far, that's a straight up lie) academic writing.  This from someone who has spent a lot of his life reading academic papers.

And while I have serious issue with the way that Grailed exploited Styleforum and other forums to promote his (obviously commercial) venture, in complete, illegal, violation of our ToS, I think that Grailed, itself, is a pretty sound idea.  Probably precisely for the reasons that Faust hates it.  It doesn't democratize fashion, but it allows a range of styles to exist in a marketplace that is, as much as possible, free of bias towards any particular style.  And that, imo, is good for guys who like fashion, because it decontextualizes brands and pieces and allows the person looking at pieces to make up their own style, think up their own combinations.  

I mean, there is no specific reason that Guidi or MA+ or whatever footwear has to be paired with Layer-0 tops and BBS pants, or that you can't wear all of those brands with some SLP jodphurs, or that you can't wear Guidi chukkas with workwear (I could see @ManofKent
 pulling this off really well, actually.  We think that certain brands "work together" mainly because they've been marketed that way to us, and we see these images over and over.  

Eugene is such a tool bag its not even funny. What you said up there is exactly what fashion is about, you can pair some cool things that are outside of an aesthetic. NicelyNice does it all the time and its great here on SF, SZ on the other hand... oh no you can't wear those jeans with those shoes. Too serious for its own good.

Being decked in all rick is cool but don't take yourself too seriously.