Random fashion thoughts - Part II (A New Hope)

[shoreman1782]

Looks like it would go really well with an unearned smugness.

I've had this RLPL jumper for a while now, but haven't really worn it properly, I don't know what will go with it, Summer is coming up soon and I want to wear it.
Help is, as always, appreciated.

 

[the shah]

Opportunity risk, primarily, and budget risk to a lesser degree.

I think the opportunity to handle at/ of

This is a huge trade off. I guess if you're buying just because of the brand it doesn't matter. Or if you know fabric codes etc it's still not the same. One way around it is to just walk into the buyers' event post show and check things out but that requires being in Paris or wherever. Plus you'll have to be or pretend to be affiliated with a retailer.

 

[Bam!ChairDance]

The solution is to let the guests of runway shows reach out and caress the clothes as the models walk by

Then every show can resemble a zombie movie. We waaant to touuuch yooour faaaaabriiiiiics

 

[conceptual 4est]

Yeah, there are a number of reasons that model won't work for any labels that are doing anything interesting, design-wise.

The one I haven't seen mentioned though is that most people simply don't have the confidence to buy something without first seeing what is trending, and what cool stores, tastemakers, and trendsetters have bought and are wearing.


Burberry actually did something about 5 years back for the Korean market, who were obsessed with matching "his and hers" things. They offered a NikeID sort of setup, where you could customize trench coats to your specs, at a massive premium, and the details would get sent directly to the factory and made from those submissions. Of course there were one or two people in the middle making sure something weird wasn't going on, but it was technology that have developed in-house, even years ago. I see no reason why they couldn't have shoppable runway shows, especially if what they're showing on the runway is something they've already been making for months or years.

 

[GoldenTribe]



The one I haven't seen mentioned though is that most people simply don't have the confidence to buy something without first seeing what is trending, and what cool stores, tastemakers, and trendsetters have bought and are wearing.

I love the idea of taking this away from them.

I've had this RLPL jumper for a while now, but haven't really worn it properly, I don't know what will go with it, Summer is coming up soon and I want to wear it.
Help is, as always, appreciated.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

With the weird green background/lighting I can't tell if that's orange or pink, but it's just a crewneck knit top -- you are over-thinking it.

Avoid the Vineyard Vines catalogue look and you're probably fine.

 

[t3hg0suazn]

Does Margiela produce everything in Romania now? @RegisDB9
I know Made in Romania vs. Made in Italy probably doesn't mean anything quality wise, but it does raise some ethical qualms. I noticed that AMI is also made in Romania, and I don't know how much I trust their "with love" promise. And generally fashion houses moving production to cheaper labor has been an ominous sign in terms of the future of the brand. I guess Margiela is under yoox < net-a-porter so it's inevitable.
Too bad because SS16 and FW16 both looked really strong.

 

[ManofKent]



Does Margiela produce everything in Romania now? @RegisDB9

I know Made in Romania vs. Made in Italy probably doesn't mean anything quality wise, but it does raise some ethical qualms. I noticed that AMI is also made in Romania, and I don't know how much I trust their "with love" promise. And generally fashion houses moving production to cheaper labor has been an ominous sign in terms of the future of the brand. I guess Margiela is under yoox < net-a-porter so it's inevitable. 
Too bad because SS16 and FW16 both looked really strong. 

Romania has to follow the same EU labour laws that Italy does (yes I know it's in theory and practice may vary). Worker's rights are probably better protected than in the US...

 

[accordion]

lololol https://[email protected]/100

 

[shoreman1782]

We laugh but like everything sold

 

[Ragechester]

Yea but some of the styling choices so badddd

I thought the price gouging would be worse

 

[Severisth]

Styling is bad, but honestly considering how absurd I thought the pricing would be, the prices things sold at weren't that out of line (or at least the things I clicked on weren't)

 

[t3hg0suazn]

I thought it was actually a fairly well curated collection. They managed to cover a wide range of styles with some cool pieces from each. Didn't really pay attention to styling, just looked at items themselves. I am a little surprised how quickly things sold. Also did they just buy these pieces off the marketplace and store them until they got 100? If so that's a pretty risky move - comes with all the risks/problems of being a retailer.

 

[nahneun]

laugh to jack black singing kpop instead

 

[RXS09]

I thought it was actually a fairly well curated collection. They managed to cover a wide range of styles with some cool pieces from each. Didn't really pay attention to styling, just looked at items themselves. I am a little surprised how quickly things sold. Also did they just buy these pieces off the marketplace and store them until they got 100? If so that's a pretty risky move - comes with all the risks/problems of being a retailer.

Agreed, thought some of the looks were pretty cool.

 

[LA Guy]

Gotcha.

For the really engaged fashion consumer that may be a useful trade-off, but for the rabble I think the opportunity to handle at/potentially return to a retail outlet (plus the expectation of sales later in the season) is something people would really miss. I mean we're a long way from getting rid of retail altogether but it's sorta happening to mainstream department stores.

Yeah, there are a number of reasons that model won't work for any labels that are doing anything interesting, design-wise.

The one I haven't seen mentioned though is that most people simply don't have the confidence to buy something without first seeing what is trending, and what cool stores, tastemakers, and trendsetters have bought and are wearing.


Burberry actually did something about 5 years back for the Korean market, who were obsessed with matching "his and hers" things. They offered a NikeID sort of setup, where you could customize trench coats to your specs, at a massive premium, and the details would get sent directly to the factory and made from those submissions. Of course there were one or two people in the middle making sure something weird wasn't going on, but it was technology that have developed in-house, even years ago. I see no reason why they couldn't have shoppable runway shows, especially if what they're showing on the runway is something they've already been making for months or years.

It seems like, at least from the consumer side, that there would be few perceivable changes. The real change would be on the vendor would get the benefits of marketing immediately, instead of spending a ton of time and money on a runway show or installation that generates excitement for stuff that won't be on sale for 6 months, and then, when the collections actually hit the stores, there is no followup marketing by the brand itself, other than through third parties like magazines, online publications, and retailers.

Or maybe we are talking at cross purposes. That also happens a lot...