Random Fashion Thoughts (Part 3: Style farmer strikes back) - our general discussion thread

[MarkI]

I still like raw denim...

 

[hoodog]

I still like raw denim...

I do too.

 

[Coldsnap]

I dropped out of the raw denim game when I found Sugar Canes 1947 in like 2011, been wearing them since.

 

[dieworkwear]

I dropped out of the raw denim game when I found Sugar Canes 1947 in like 2011, been wearing them since.

... doesn't that mean you're still in the raw denim game?

 

[worakl]

When it comes to that feeling of why distinct trend eras have seemingly disintegrated, I keep recalling this 032C piece from a few years ago:

THE BIG FLAT NOW: Power, Flatness, and Nowness in the Third Millennium

As a contemporary metaphor, flatness describes how the invention of the Internet has restructured global society. At its origin, its promise was a social revolution founded on intersectional equality and universal democracy. It is our contention that that promise may yet be fully realized.

032c.com

Cultural production in the third millennium is totally flat. The information we make and share travels through media that lack hierarchy or centrality. There is no principal authority, no recognized arbitrator, and no centralized archive.

[...]

The ability to view vast volumes of data and records from the past, as well as grasp a variety of positions on the future, means that there is no longer any meaningful separation between other eras and our own. Indeed, history is today understood as a kind of alternative present, still happening somewhere else.

When influences from everywhere and everytime are so readily available, I do think there's some merit to the idea that the regular "trend-cycle" that spans decades does get kinda broken.

 

[nicelynice]

Pnp firenze close down?

 

[peachfuzzmcgee]

What I can't stand about raw denim that took me a year to learn was how I hate low rise and everything tapered.

Even looking at reddit, everyone is into these thick jeans with like a 10 inch rise and some version of slim tapered. It's extremely uncomfy.

I have a pair of forgotten iron hearts that Ive meaning to sell because 21oz is like sitting in a burlap sack.

 

[FlyingMonkey]

I have a pair of forgotten iron hearts that Ive meaning to sell because 21oz is like sitting in a burlap sack.

My heaviest current pair is only 18z (Japan Blue Godzilla). And they feel great, but then I like to feel the weight and texture of clothes. And heavier weight doesn't wear through at the thighs like lightweight denim (which is a huge and annoying problem for me).

I also have a pair of Kapital Mottainai, which are super cheap and made from their factory second denim, and it always amuses me how much people try to sell them for on Grailed, because 'Kapital'...

 

[FlyingMonkey]

When it comes to that feeling of why distinct trend eras have seemingly disintegrated, I keep recalling this 032C piece from a few years ago:

THE BIG FLAT NOW: Power, Flatness, and Nowness in the Third Millennium

As a contemporary metaphor, flatness describes how the invention of the Internet has restructured global society. At its origin, its promise was a social revolution founded on intersectional equality and universal democracy. It is our contention that that promise may yet be fully realized.

032c.com

Yeah, the subcultures research is saying similar things these days. It's not like subcultures these days are these efflourescences of shared feeling 'agains the mainstream' any more, rather they are just off-the-shelf consumer choices, with one as good as any other, and with little in the way of (even implied) critique.

 

[Mghart]

What I can't stand about raw denim that took me a year to learn was how learned to hate low rise and everything tapered.

Even looking at reddit, everyone is into these thick jeans with like a 10 inch rise and some version of slim tapered. It's extremely uncomfy.

I have a pair of forgotten iron hearts that Ive meaning to sell because 21oz is like sitting in a burlap sack.

This is precisely why I can't be bothered with any of the popular forum(here,reddit,otherwise) brands. Comically low rises, slim taper everything.. I honestly don't get it at all. Thankfully I've found my few pairs/brands and I'm basically set for years now.

 

[peachfuzzmcgee]

My heaviest current pair is only 18z (Japan Blue Godzilla). And they feel great, but then I like to feel the weight and texture of clothes. And heavier weight doesn't wear through at the thighs like lightweight denim (which is a huge and annoying problem for me).

I also have a pair of Kapital Mottainai, which are super cheap and made from their factory second denim, and it always amuses me how much people try to sell them for on Grailed, because 'Kapital'...

I top out at 16oz. Anything more and it feels a bit too much plus I need them to be relatively straight cut. My favorite pairs being a 14oz SDA straight wide pants and some vintage Lees. Although I have a skinny-ish frame so thigh rub ain't a problem for me.

Kapitals denim ain't nothing special at all, century denim is the only thing worth it for me. I'm not even sure how Grailed sellers sell any kapital the prices are sometimes 3x the US retail price. Even when sometimes US retailers still stock that particular item.

edit: I'll add century denim is only worth it in JP pricing otherwise it's also too rich for me

 

[hammerhead_corvette]

Low rise is the worst. I have found some great raw denim jeans from SDA, Japan Blue, Shockoe, Freenote and Gustin (straight fit). I usually go for a relaxed taper or straight leg. I have huge thighs which basically makes any slim jean impossible for me.

 

[Fuuma]

When it comes to that feeling of why distinct trend eras have seemingly disintegrated, I keep recalling this 032C piece from a few years ago:

THE BIG FLAT NOW: Power, Flatness, and Nowness in the Third Millennium

As a contemporary metaphor, flatness describes how the invention of the Internet has restructured global society. At its origin, its promise was a social revolution founded on intersectional equality and universal democracy. It is our contention that that promise may yet be fully realized.

032c.com

When influences from everywhere and everytime are so readily available, I do think there's some merit to the idea that the regular "trend-cycle" that spans decades does get kinda broken.

Breaking news!!! Fashion magazine discovers postmodernism and writes article.

 

[imatlas]

Raleigh Denim “Alexander”, Todd Shelton, Epaulet “Walt”: good denim options for guys with big thighs, at reasonable prices, made in America.

 

[hammerhead_corvette]

Oh yeah the Raleigh Denim Graham fit is good too. I have a pair of them and they are great.