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Don't you have that reversed? Long rise, longer inseam? Please explain I always choose long rise. Maybe it has no bearing on the rise either way?If the rise is different, the inseam length changes.
short rise, longer inseam
higher rise, shorter inseam
NopeDon't you have that reversed? Long rise, longer inseam? Please explain I always choose long rise. Maybe it has no bearing on the rise either way?
Just be careful! As in the pics above, there's the risk of negative break.
Same here. One possibility is to hem it to the loafer length. If it is a bit lower on the boot it might not make a difference? Just guessing here.
fahking hell. i'm 6'1" with a 29" inseam. swimmers body, i have stubs for legs. i need grandpa-levels of rise to make my legs look normal. but i would go with loafers because they're the most "exposed" and going with derbies/boots on a loafer alteration will probably look better than if you alter based on boot
Heel height, thickness of the sole and then style of shoe have an equal effect on trouser length. Circumference of the hem is the other variable. 7.5' opening will be a different length than a 8" or 9" circumference. If you want the trouser length to work with 3 different shoe styles; one will be just right and the other 2 will break a bit more or a bit less.
Decision is; which shoe do you want the length to be just right and which shoes will look better with a small break.
Assuming you don't want them to be short
@ppkThe way I think about it is:
Outseam = rise + inseam
So if the rise is longer, the inseam needs to be shorter to keep the same outseam. Outseam is top hem to bottom hem.
For example, if your outseam is 41in. You like a 11in rise the inseam has to be 30in. If the rise is shorter, the inseam needs to be longer to maintain the overall length.
Boot will probably require the longer length, not the loafer.Thanks for all the responses. I was guessing using my loafers as a baseline when getting trousers hem with no-break as this would work for all 3 types of shoes. However, my tailor said, wear the boots when deciding how to handle the hem length; thus I posted this question to the forum for suggestion.
Also thx Despos for giving me another way to look at this.
But surely your outseam is 41 because you like an 11 inch rise. The distance from the bottom of your balls to your feet is fixed. The only variable is where you want the pants to lie on your gut.For example, if your outseam is 41in. You like a 11in rise the inseam has to be 30in. If the rise is shorter, the inseam needs to be longer to maintain the overall length.
Rise of the pant makes a big difference too. Lot of people don’t consider that.I just measured my height at 5 foot seven inches. I usually wore 30 inch inseam but I have been wondering why my newest pants are too long. They are thirty inches. I am going for twenty nine inch inseam from now on. Measured with leather dress shoes.
For clarity, those measurements were an example. They are not mine.But surely your outseam is 41 because you like an 11 inch rise. The distance from the bottom of your balls to your feet is fixed. The only variable is where you want the pants to lie on your gut.
this is an example of the point I tried to make.In general, I prefer trousers that are 1-2 inches lower than the crotch on my body. My inseam on a pair of slim fit jeans is 34-35, but on my ideal dress pants is 31.5.
I could have phrased it better - what I meant was that I prefer a longer rise and a relaxed fit in the crotch area in dress pants.this is an example of the point I tried to make.
have a client with a 30” inseam when we make tailored trousers.
When we make lower rise jeans for him the inseam is 31.5”
not sure what you mean in the first sentence quoted here
I checked Bill's again. I misremembered the issue. It's not the inseam, but the waist. I *WANT* the damn M1s. I'm a 30 waist and they start at 34.Honestly?
Honestly??
Bill's motherf*n khakis.
The M1s.
The WW2 grandpa pants.
I know. Seems impossible. You must get the M2s, they say. Bill's are for old prepsters, they say.
I have 26" thighs my guy. The torso and arms of a man 6'4". And the legs of a dachshund. When a man has challenges, a man must also throw out the rules as to what is conventionally cool or normie. No Rota. No Incotex. These are for twiggy legs with tiny tapers.
You must let those Christmas hams breathe.
You must embrace the 8.5-9" hem at the ankle.
You must accept your proportions and elevate your style.
This is the way. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
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