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oak kitchen cabinetry and the overall cohesiveness of a renovation project

GQgeek

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My father is finally getting around to the renovations he intended on doing when he bought his place. However, he's trying to limit his spending to 15-20k because he doesn't think he'll get back the money if he spends more than that. Right now everything is dark and ugly.

He's approaching everything totally wrong imo. It's like he woke-up today and wants to start having work done without any sort of cohesive plan (I'm assuming it was my mother that worried about this *********** past). My brother renovated his upstairs bathroom in travertine marble with a glass shower and pedestal sink (it's a tiny bathroom). It's not bad in isolation but it doesn't go with the rest of the condo.

The downstairs bathroom is basically an ugly pinkish tile. The bath tub is pink. The kitchen has '70s style brown tile, an earthy/vomitty colored wall tile, and oak cabinets. The same oak cabinets are in the downstairs bathroom, right across from the kitchen.

Originally he was thinking of doing hardwood floors, but now he's changing his mind because there are some other renovation expenses that have come up which he didn't anticipate, so he's going to limit himself to replacing the carpets, doing tiles in the kitchen and bathroom. New shower/sink for the bathroom and new counters in both the bathroom and kitchen. He was asking me to help him pick tile today, but I honestly can't picture anything that will look good with those horrible oak cabinets.

I mean what goes with them except for beige? Has anyone seen kitchens like this that don't look bad? If he would just scrap the cabinets entirely, he'd have much better options, but that obviously adds to the overall cost. Oh and he's got new appliances that he won't be replacing. They're your standard white and not stainless.

The kitchen is tiny but non-standard. Would staining be an option to make it look more modern? Dark wood with white can look good. I think it's a mistake to redo the floors with carpet instead of wood, but it's his money. I really don't know the first thing about resale values of condos and whether he would be able to recoup his costs. I think he should have sat down before doing his upstairs bathroom and decided what he wanted to achieve instead of just approaching it in a piecemeal fashion.
 

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What are the current cabinets like?
Are they really something worth holding on to?
What is the design like?
I'm imagining them as kinda standard honey brown oak things.

Striping the finish, staining (or dying) and refinishing might work, but you could also be dropping a lot of money into poor quality cabinets that you'll never be fully content with.


I'd only add that as a non-real estate expert, I've heard many people say "never enter into a remodel in hopes of making your money back" and "always have an exit strategy if you're buying a condo".
 

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Originally Posted by ruben
What are the current cabinets like? Are they really something worth holding on to? What is the design like? I'm imagining them as kinda standard honey brown oak things. Striping the finish, staining (or dying) and refinishing might work, but you could also be dropping a lot of money into poor quality cabinets that you'll never be fully content with. I'd only add that as a non-real estate expert, I've heard many people say "never enter into a remodel in hopes of making your money back" and "always have an exit strategy if you're buying a condo".
Yes. They're really nothing special. I'm guessing whoever built the place was going for a failed attempt at "country." It's quite dreadful. I certainly don't think they're worth hanging on to. His hang-up is the cost of replacing them. I just can't imagine what good replacing the floor tiles and counter will do if he leaves those cabinets in there with that awful wall tile. I don't know jack about renovating but I can't imagine that it would be easy to remove teh wall tile with those cabinets in the way. And it won't be easy to match those cabinets to an attractive counter top imo. I mean what's he gonna do, make everything beige? Talk about drab...
 

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I'd steer him away from a dark stain, as condo kitchens usually without a window, and keeping things bright is an issue. Go for something richer and darker than that standard honey colour, and go with light floors.

Did I read carpet in the kitchen?
 

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Originally Posted by Piobaire
I'd steer him away from a dark stain, as condo kitchens usually without a window, and keeping things bright is an issue. Go for something richer and darker than that standard honey colour, and go with light floors.

Did I read carpet in the kitchen?


No, carpet everywhere else. Tile in the kitchen. I say condo but it's really more of a townhouse condo. He's got the two top levels and lots of windows, including a window in the kitchen, but due to the size of the kitchen I agree that it should be bright. I'd frankly like to see white cabinets in there as well as in the bathroom (which has no windows).
 

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Yeah, if they look anything like I'm thinking, a dark stain wouldn't do much good.
With all the "failed country" casing and hardware it would look like a shoddy TLC show remodel.

Maybe he should just do what he want's with the rest of the kitchen, regardless of how it matches the oak, and then pull the cabinets when he has more money to spend.
 

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