Jacques Marie Mage - Wolves, Obnoxious Acetate and The American Dream

[DorianGreen]

Hi all, I just received a pair of Devoto's and they are substantially lighter (9mm acetate as opposed to 10mm, not surprising and I don't mind) but they now say handcrafted in Italy on the temples as well as the certificate card. Is this a new thing? All my other JMM are MIJ and the quality certainly shows. The exposed temples show some sort of gunk or glue inside acetate as well. Honestly, pretty disappointing as the quality compared to Dealan's are night and day.

*Updated with some images from mr porter which show the model clearly says handcrafted in Italy but the descriptions still say handcrafted in Japan.

On the JMM website it's stated that the model is made in Italy.
Probably the reason, as well as the lighter acetate, for the lower price.

 

[Mr Jay]

Dealan Fatigue available right now.

LEGEND!

 

[obecity]

Ongoing joke.

Ahhh ok. MB, mb (my bad). I’ve been on this forum since oh about page 400 so maybe the joke originated back during the infancy of this forum. Sometimes the subtle nuance of human communication is lost on electronic bulletin boards like this. Thanks for clarifying. Blessings unto you.

 

[_AMD]

It is for women only. No men.

They don't look like tortoise.

 

[ExAngel]

On the JMM website it's stated that the model is made in Italy.
Probably the reason, as well as the lighter acetate, for the lower price.

My question is what is the difference? The certificate it comes with says made in Italy with the signature and on the back it has the circa collection spiel and that it’s subject to the Japanese 300 point process etc but obviously that’s not the case.

So, is the acetate from an Italian factory? Is it “handmade” by slapping on a JMM emblem on a mass produced frame? I’m surprised at the sloppiness and inconsistency.

The glasses are fine but there is a noticeable difference and it’d be nice to know where they cut corners. That they are $600 frames should not matter as they are only about $150 less than their reference standard frames.

 

[troika]

I disagree. I think that frame can work for both men or women. Just my two cents but a lot of people tell me that I’m nearly always correct about stuff like this.

 

[FlyingHorker]

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It's a nice detail, present on Caan and Belize from the Umit Benan series.

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It was also used previously on Sandro and Hickok.

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I wouldn't like though to see it on each model. Moreover I doubt that it would prevent a crack in the acetate: as said, you wouldn't simply see it. I would be curious to hear an opinion from

Thanks dudes, appreciate it. I forgot the Belize had it.

Still the nicest frames I've ever held. Fellinis are dope and fit me better, but part of me fiends for them still.

I talked to my local shop and they said it's common for acetate a bit at that part of the temple, and won't get bigger or break on me.

I'll take their word for it and just accept the imperfection.

 

[jeaniusog]

They don't look like tortoise.

Lol dont think i said it black and white like that but still stand by that brown and leopard spots is more feminine than black frames but hey wear what u like lol

 

[_AMD]

Lol dont think i said it black and white like that but still stand by that brown and leopard spots is more feminine than black frames but hey wear what u like lol

Not to be pedantic, but...

dont understand why JMM doesnt do gold hardware on black frames. hate tortoise. to me tortoise is for women

 

[jeaniusog]

lol oops i guess i did my mistake

 

[DorianGreen]

My question is what is the difference? The certificate it comes with says made in Italy with the signature and on the back it has the circa collection spiel and that it’s subject to the Japanese 300 point process etc but obviously that’s not the case.

So, is the acetate from an Italian factory? Is it “handmade” by slapping on a JMM emblem on a mass produced frame? I’m surprised at the sloppiness and inconsistency.

The glasses are fine but there is a noticeable difference and it’d be nice to know where they cut corners. That they are $600 frames should not matter as they are only about $150 less than their reference standard frames.

I have not the technical competence to answer your question, but I would say that Italian craftsmanship is second to none and the Devoto has the features normally shown on the models made in Japan, thick acetate, 7-barrel hinges, exposed and decorated wirecore. I think that they are produced to the same high standards of their Japanese counterparts.

JMM already used Italian manufacturers, but only on womens lines by far, if I remember correctly.

The difference in price, about €200 for the most models, is not that little to me.

 

[Mr Jay]

I have not the technical competence to answer your question, but I would say that Italian craftsmanship is second to none and the Devoto has the features normally shown on the models made in Japan, thick acetate, 7-barrel hinges, exposed and decorated wirecore. I think that they are produced to the same high standards of their Japanese counterparts.

JMM already used Italian manufacturers, but only on womens lines by far, if I remember correctly.

The difference in price, about €200 for the most models, is not that little to me.

I don't know.. Italians do a lot of things masterfully but as for glasses imo:

Made in Japan = Rolls Royce
Made in France = Ferrari
Made in Italy = BMW

Personally if I were JMM I wouldn't bother with MII except for leather cases which are indeed nice

 

[DorianGreen]

I don't know.. Italians do a lot of things masterfully but as for glasses imo:

Made in Japan = Rolls Royce
Made in France = Ferrari
Made in Italy = BMW

Personally if I were JMM I wouldn't bother with MII except for leather cases which are indeed nice

Of course there must be a reason if JMM has chosen to have its main production in Japan. It's also a consolidated opinion that that land is the best source for high quality eyewear,

What I want to say is that their frames made in Italy couldn't be so far away from their normal standards. And obviously there is a reason for such a choice.

By the way, did you buy the Dealan Fatigue?

 

[MickeyPunch]

What do you guys think of the Stahler? I'd use them as sunglasses with some light brown lens. After the fellini, plaza and dealan it might be nice to have something lighter?

Too meh?

 

[jeaniusog]

I don't know.. Italians do a lot of things masterfully but as for glasses imo:

Made in Japan = Rolls Royce
Made in France = Ferrari
Made in Italy = BMW

Personally if I were JMM I wouldn't bother with MII except for leather cases which are indeed nice

Its more about the acetate manufacturers. Japan, Italy and china are the biggest 3. Never heard of france. Japan produces the best quality.

I have a couple LV frames which are “hand made in france” the quality is garbage. Acetate shrink and shrivel in heat when you try to adjust the fit. Probably chinese acetate just assembled in france.