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Identifying shell cordovan

KObalto

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I thought all Peal shoes were calfskin or shell, not CG?
 

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100% corrected grain. The mistake in the listing is that those are NOT Peal shoes, but from the "Brooks English" line. BB never sold shell cordovan under the "Brooks English" label - it was their lower end stuff.

EDIT: I wasn't sure about my certainty in regards to Brooks English and was able to find an old post that shows a pair of Brooks English shell cordovan wingtips. That said, the OP's pics are showing cg.
 

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Thank you all for your input. I've always thought corrected grain shoes were inferior and if that's the case I'm surprised to see a pair of them from Peal & Co for BB. The asking price on these is $150, should I pass?
 

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Originally Posted by BBC
100% corrected grain. The mistake in the listing is that those are NOT Peal shoes, but from the "Brooks English" line. BB never sold shell cordovan under the "Brooks English" label - it was their lower end stuff.


Perhaps they're Church's?
 

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Originally Posted by BBC
100% corrected grain. The mistake in the listing is that those are NOT Peal shoes, but from the "Brooks English" line. BB never sold shell cordovan under the "Brooks English" label - it was their lower end stuff.

Are you certain about this? I think there have been some shell cordovan Brooks English shoes. I know for a fact that EG has made some Brooks English shoes.
 

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Originally Posted by sockpuppets
Thank you all for your input. I've always thought corrected grain shoes were inferior and if that's the case I'm surprised to see a pair of them from Peal & Co for BB. The asking price on these is $150, should I pass?

As I mentioned earlier, I have a pair of Ralph Lauren Made in England monkstraps that are corrected grain. While there is no color variation that marks high quality leather, they are pretty damn nice and one of my favorite shoes to wear. On the other hand, I picked up a pair of Allen Edmonds that turned out to be CG and the leather isn't nearly as nice. This isn't meant to be a slight on Allen Edmonds as I have many pairs and like them quite a bit, but there does appear to be a few levels of corrected grain and the better ones can be pretty damn adequate, provided you don't pay top dollar.
 

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Originally Posted by Grayland
I have a pair of Made in England Ralph Lauren monkstraps that look very similar (in regards to creasing) and my shoes are corrected grain. They have that shell ripple with micro-creases.

I think this is correct. Shell ripple + micro-creasing strongly suggests corrected grain calf.
 

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Originally Posted by rebel222
Are you certain about this? I think there have been some shell cordovan Brooks English shoes. I know for a fact that EG has made some Brooks English shoes.

I thought I was certain, but searched the archives and came across a pair of "Brooks English" shell wingtips - so I was clearly mistaken. That said, I think everyone agrees the pics posted by the OP are cg. I wasn't aware the EG made some shoes for the Brooks English line, I thought it was Churchs and similar caliber.
 

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"Brooks English" and "Peal" are simply names owned by BB. They have been supplied by different makers at various levels of quality for decades.
 

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