Church's WTF!?

[pebblegrain]

what does "how they hold up" have to do with anything? The leather, the cloth lining, and the stitched tongue aren't magically going to change the longer you wear them.

why don't you just return them? and then delete this thread

 

[rathebaindc]

You bought corrected grain shoes for $500. You're worried about the tongue being stitched to the upper. If there was ever a time I would use one of those awful emoticons, this would be it.

 

[JDMills]

You should have noticed they were corrected grain the second you picked them up and tried them on its kind of obvious. But apparently Church uses a higher end CG and I've seen some old Church that are CG that don't look so bad. Why dont you call a shop near where you live or call Church directly and ask if you can return them?

 

[SirWilliam]

I walked out of the store in them because was I late for a party and Cathy Pacific lost one of my bags. So they are worn but also for the most part all sales are final in Hong Kong. At least they were on sale.

 

[Leather man]

Sewing one side of the tongue to the upper is a sign of a quality shoe not otherwise - Edward Green, John Lobb Paris , Gaziano and Girling etc etc do it.

Linen linings were once used by all good shoemakers - some bespoke makers still regard them as being superior to full leather linings.

Corrected Grain - are these from the cheaper "City" line or are they Custom Grade - if the latter they will look good and last you for many years.

Like one other poster I'm wondering if you work for a competitor of Church's?

 

[SirWilliam]

They are the city line and no I do not work for a competitor I work for a large accounting firm. So you can get the "polished binder" CG in the custom grade? I have a pair of really beautiful custom grades which cost around $1k...hard to believe that CG leather would be in that same line.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

People are getting ridiculous. Church's polished binder comes on all grades of their shoes. Just because a leather is corrected doesn't mean it is crap. It depends on the quality of the tanning. It is just the look they are going for. The leather isn't the same as a pair of Kenneth Cole shoes, it is tanned well and corrected for a sleek look, that is all.

The sewn tongue to the top of the shoe is normal for high quality shoes.

The fabric lining at the vamp of the shoes is linen. It has water wicking properties and keeps the shoe lighter. Just make sure that you use shoes trees after each wear and don't wear them two days in a row and you will be ok.

Don't feel bad about your purchase. It may not be your favorite shoe, but it is a very good shoe nonetheless.

 

[mishon]

It's been noted on multiple occasions that the quality has gone down since the buyout of the brand by Prada. Wear them sparingly, take good care of them and they will last.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Originally Posted by mishon

It's been noted on multiple occasions that the quality has gone down since the buyout of the brand by Prada. Wear them sparingly, take good care of them and they will last.

Prove it. Nothing has changed except some things stylistically.

 

[Sanguis Mortuum]

Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH

People are getting ridiculous. Church's polished binder comes on all grades of their shoes. Just because a leather is corrected doesn't mean it is crap. It depends on the quality of the tanning. It is just the look they are going for. The leather isn't the same as a pair of Kenneth Cole shoes, it is tanned well and corrected for a sleek look, that is all.

Yeah. Personally I don't much like CG so I would probably still avoid them, but CG can be made from good leather just as it can be made from cheap leather; although the process is often used to cover up imperfections it does not in itself mean the leather must be cheap.

 

[Ich_Dien]

Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH

Prove it. Nothing has changed except some things stylistically.

The price has changed somewhat dramatically...

 

[countbaron]

and the price of comparable british brands has not??
Come on, SF is full about threads of the type "why did C&Js go up 40% from year 200x to 200y"

 

[Ich_Dien]

The last time I checked Church's were roughly £380 and C&J £275.

 

[patrickBOOTH]

Church's weigh approximately 38% more as well.