Cars We Drive!

[Texasmade]

you're not even married yet no?

No I'm not.

Marriage isn’t a requirement for having kids, yet.

I call them bonus kids. Step kids doesn't sound as nice.

 

[Jr Mouse]

I just want to get a LC or GX because they look fvcking awesome now. I don't ever plan on going off roading in either.

I'm going to need to replace my Porsche with a family hauler sometime this year and seriously considering either a LC or GX.

I love how the LC looks. The new GX not as much but it's not bad.

Excited to see the R2 reveal.

 

[Jr Mouse]

you're not even married yet no?

He’s married to the forum.

 

[Texasmade]

He’s married to the forum.

Ngl, gf gets pissed at me for being on my phone reading SF all the time. Now I have to do most of my sh1tpoasting Mon-Fri at work.

 

[Texasmade]

I love how the LC looks. The new GX not as much but it's not bad.

I prefer the looks of the LC more too but service is way better at Lexus over Toyota.

 

[jbarwick]

No I'm not.

I call them bonus kids. Step kids doesn't sound as nice.

@HRoi - Texas is giving up instead of the N+1 mentality. Shame!

 

[brokencycle]

Ngl, gf gets pissed at me for being on my phone reading SF all the time. Now I have to do most of my sh1tpoasting Mon-Fri at work.

Sounds like she should be replaced.

 

[UnFacconable]

Rivian R2 to be revealed in two days. Pricing leaked with them starting at $47k before tax credit and a 330 mile range. I have concerns about the long term health of the company but this could be a killer electric SUV.

I see so many Rivians these days (in Tahoe and in the Bay Area). From my perspective, they've completely nailed the positioning (I think of it as basically Grand Cherokee of EVs, but with a bit more innovation). Rivian seems to be the only company that is targeting people who want an SUV for traditional SUV things (not offroading as a sport but going to the mountains, etc.). The typical electric CUVS (really just tall hatchbacks like the Model Y, Mach-E, etc.) are practical and well packaged but aren't meant to address the needs of the traditional outdoor enthusiast SUV buyer.

Our current quiver is a Grand Cherokee (which we street park and use for Tahoe trips, etc.) and a small electric CUV (which lives in our garage) but would rather have something like an R2S if it were practical for our garage. If the R2S nails the size and can be produced at the promised price at volume, I think it will be a very popular solution (at least where I live). The efficiency of an electric powertrain makes up for the poor SUV aerodynamics so people won't have to "feel bad" about driving an SUV.

Hopefully the R2S is a slightly scaled down R1S and not a Bronco Sport. [EDIT: Based on what I'm seeing online, it's going to be almost exactly the same dimensions as a GLC/X3, with a longer wheelbase and more ground clearance. I think that's the right size and the proportions should be pretty good.]

 

[Jr Mouse]

I see so many Rivians these days (in Tahoe and in the Bay Area). From my perspective, they've completely nailed the positioning (I think of it as basically Grand Cherokee of EVs, but with a bit more innovation). Rivian seems to be the only company that is targeting people who want an SUV for traditional SUV things (not offroading as a sport but going to the mountains, etc.). The typical electric CUVS (really just tall hatchbacks like the Model Y, Mach-E, etc.) are practical and well packaged but aren't meant to address the needs of the traditional outdoor enthusiast SUV buyer.

Our current quiver is a Grand Cherokee (which we street park and use for Tahoe trips, etc.) and a small electric CUV (which lives in our garage) but would rather have something like an R2S if it were practical for our garage. If the R2S nails the size and can be produced at the promised price at volume, I think it will be a very popular solution (at least where I live). The efficiency of an electric powertrain makes up for the poor SUV aerodynamics so people won't have to "feel bad" about driving an SUV.

Hopefully the R2S is a slightly scaled down R1S and not a Bronco Sport.

Going by the teaser shots my guess is it will be a smaller R1S with design tweaks.

 

[Fueco]

Going by the teaser shots my guess is it will be a smaller R1S with design tweaks.

That makes it look about the size of a Tahoe.

 

[Jr Mouse]

That makes it look about the size of a Tahoe.

My guess is slightly larger than the new Land Cruiser. That’s the market they will want to go for IMO.

 

[UnFacconable]

My guess is slightly larger than the new Land Cruiser.

According to Reddit people it's more X3 - 185" long, 75" wide, 66" high. The new LC (not in the table below) is significantly bigger - 10" longer, 9" wider, 7" taller.

 

[Jr Mouse]

According to Reddit people it's more X3 - 185" long, 75" wide, 66" high. The new LC (not in the table below) is significantly bigger - 10" longer, 9" wider, 7" taller.

Interesting. I’d have really guessed around LC size. We will know for sure Thursday.

At that size it’s going to appeal to a lot of people who don’t need or want a larger SUV. You open your market up to people without families wanting the capability of a true SUV.

I do hope they keep some of the off road capabilities that helped make the R1S special.

 

[stormin10]

I love how the LC looks. The new GX not as much but it's not bad.

Excited to see the R2 reveal.

I will say that I've seen the TX locally, and it looks a bit "squished" and proportionally just looks off. However, I am waiting for the GX to arrive, as that may very well be my next vehicle because while I love the Defender, I hate dealing with LR service issues, etc.

The LC is a great-looking car; it just, unfortunately, doesn't have the power to make it a "reasonable" buy in that price range.

 

[sugarbutch]

I’m hoping for an EV Sienna with that 900 mile battery Toyota is working on.

That said, our neighbor has a Fiskar Ocean, which seems nice too.

The Fisker has already had a couple of serious issues with loss of braking and rollaways. Also, the company seems extremely tenuous, more even than Lucid.