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while I agree, that any moving body through a fluid suffers drag, small differences of magnitude with modern cars of similar Cd and frontal area
it basically cancels in any comparison of similar speeds (A and Cd are linear with speed, velocity by the square)
drag force = 1/2 x density x A x Cd x V^2
my car has a Cd x A ~ 8 sq ft
but at 30 mph (44 ft/sec) V^2 is 2000 (vs 8 or say a car with 20% higher 10), Cd x A means little in the overall magnitude of losses
even less when rolling resistance, driveline losses and accel.

While aero off the line is meaningless, its effects are certainly present much earlier than 100 mph. In fact aero plays at even 30 mph.
I agree way too much emphasis is placed on HP (the engines ability to maintain RPM). Torque (the engine's ability to accelerate) is much more valuable for daily drivers.
 
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while I agree, that any moving body through a fluid suffers drag, small differences of magnitude with modern cars of similar Cd and frontal area
it basically cancels in any comparison of similar speeds (A and Cd are linear with speed, velocity by the square)
drag force = 1/2 x density x A x Cd x V^2
my car has a Cd x A ~ 8 sq ft
but at 30 mph (44 ft/sec) V^2 is 2000 (vs 8 or say a car with 20% higher 10), Cd x A means little in the overall magnitude of losses
even less when rolling resistance, driveline losses and accel.



When I see a dog with this face out the window at 30, his tongue sure be flapping about.
 

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my foot x arthurs ass^nth power = him shutting the **** up and pissing off once and for all
 

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cgt is sick as ****, my buddy had one and the v10 with targa off is unreal, sounds like a formula one car
here it is in 05 at the crystal cove meet when I used to go (this was before cars and coffee existed)
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just saw this.

that's your buddy? he looks like VRAlexqander..
 

jet

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Nah not him, didn't VR pass awhile back?
 

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Nah not him, didn't VR pass awhile back?


yeah.. which is why i asked.

i read online in forums that he swindled lots of money out of his business partner(s). dont know if that's true though.
 
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Saw a Ferrari FF in the flesh for the first time yesterday, I don't get the hate, it looks great IRL.


It needs better wheels though, just like the California.
 
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Saw a Ferrari FF in the flesh for the first time yesterday, I don't get the hate, it looks great IRL.


It needs better wheels though, just like the California.


Cant agree with this. That car is ugly just like that BMW Z coupe is.

Ferrari dont get enough **** for some of their ugly designs over the years. The 400, Mondial, 308 gt4, the F50 is hopeless.
 

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Saw a Ferrari FF in the flesh for the first time yesterday, I don't get the hate, it looks great IRL.
It needs better wheels though, just like the California.


love it - not beautiful in the classic way - but beautiful in its edginess. same for the "clownshoe" z coupe (not the latest incarnation).

anyway, MORE MATHS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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