Bumble and Bumble VS. American Crew

[az64q]

I used SumoTech years ago, and it sounds I have hair similar to the OP.

I liked it a lot, and it smelled great, too. I found that it worked best right after I got a haircut, when it was shorter. As my hair got longer, the SumoTech didn't seem strong enough to hold it up. As a result, it would be stiff at the base of the hair, but loose and wavy towards the end. It didn't look as good as with shorter hair. It would also be very poofy at the sides when my hair got longer. It did add bulk. The main reason I stopped using SumoTech was that it was filled with a lot of synthetic/bad ingredients (parabens and alcohols) which are not good for your scalp.

I've been trying other products, including American Crew, but I haven't found anything I like as much as SumoTech. The product that came closest was d:fi D:struct. What I don't like about it is that it looks and feels like a cheap, drugstore product.

 

[C.lo562]

I like sumotech and it works really good, just really expensive for it's size.

 

[Fraiche]

What shampoo washes that stuff off properly? I've used those products before but it takes several rounds of shampoo before it comes off...

 

[Kenny Chua]

I have short to medium length asian hair.

The 2 things that I find that differentiate the products is whether they are water soluble or not. Water soluble i like because it rinses off your hands after you apply it, but when you start sweating, it loses hold. Non water soluble I don't really like because it like washing grease off your hands, you need like lots of soap, but it holds the hair though.... and also, I'm not super excited about how shiny it is.

Sumotech is what I currently use. Water soluble-great for me. But I find I have to use A LOT to make it work right and not falling flat after a few a hours. And the smell is great.
Sumowax I don't like, too waxy, to shiny, too oily and doesn't smell that great.
The Aveda one that comes in like a deodorant stick (not sure what it's called) holds the hair VERY well, but again, I don't like how I have to shampoo my hair like 5 times to get it off.

I really want something that holds really well, that is not sticky and waxy, and matte. Do you think anything like this exists out there? You think ACrew Fiber paste is the answer?

Thanks guys.

 

[JohnGalt]

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