Band-aid colored shoes™

[Nantucket Red]

Originally Posted by RJmanbearpig

Do I have a pair of them?

You could always antique a pair.

 

[Film Noir Buff]

Originally Posted by RJmanbearpig

Do I have a pair of them?
I assumed they were band-aid colored. Whatever pair that launched many of us into finding out for the first time that you were referred to as raj on the advanced forum; apparently the iCrime of the century. http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...7&postcount=75

 

[Manton]

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

I assumed they were band-aid colored. Whatever pair that launched many of us into finding out for the first time that you were referred to as raj on the advanced forum; apparently the iCrime of the century.


http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...7&postcount=75

 

[grimslade]

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

I assumed they were band-aid colored. Whatever pair that launched many of us into finding out for the first time that you were referred to as raj on the advanced forum; apparently the iCrime of the century. http://www.styleforum.net/showpost.p...7&postcount=75
Once again with the reductio ad overstatement. The point is that there is something a trifle unseemly about your crew sitting around on that little island of your like Statler and Waldorf, privately mocking others out of site (sic). I guess if you don't see how this resembles--to switch similes--a bunch of middle-aged women standing around the bathroom gossiping, and why that's unattractive, I'll just leave it there. But others do.

 

[Film Noir Buff]

Originally Posted by grimslade

Once again with the reductio ad overstatement. The point is that there is something a trifle unseemly about your crew sitting around on that little island of your like Statler and Waldorf, privately mocking others out of site (sic). I guess if you don't see how this resembles--to switch similes--a bunch of middle-aged women standing around the bathroom gossiping, and why that's unattractive, I'll just leave it there. But others do.
Now, youre talking!

And it's not out of site. RJmanbearwhatever can go chat there too. Btw, are they mocking you too? Well adjusted, fair minded people judge me on my own behavior and that is the only viewpoint that ever concerned me.

 

[Manton]

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

Now, youre talking!

And it's not out of site. RJmanbearwhatever can go chat there too.

Btw, are they mocking you too?

Well adjusted, fair minded people judge me on my own behavior and that is the only viewpoint that ever concerned me.

I know I am already breaking my unilateral pledge, blah, blah, blah, but this response really slays me.

Can you explain why someone like RJ would want to participate on your site? Are you unaware of the extent to which he is viciously attacked there, every day, and has been since the day it launched? It goes well beyond "raj", BTW, despite your insinuation that that is the extent of it. Some of your members have signed up as "RJman" in the (now defunct) SF-chat and on othe sites and posed as him, only writing things he would of course never write. Then they come back to your site and giggle about it. Are you aware of that? So far as I know, that was one of the reasons that the SF chat was abandoned.

And even if "raj" were the extent of it, don't you think a repeated racist attack tolerated by the mod and owner would be enough to convince any sane person that the site was not the place for him?

As for being judged on your own behavior, what you tolerated and enable IS your own behavior. The way you constantly try to draw a bright line between what is done by others on your site and what you personally do strongly suggests that you are well aware that what they do is sleazy and that you don't want it to reflect on you. But it does.

If you don't think it is sleazy, why don't you try stating a defense of it? I'm sure I am not the only one who would love to hear it.

Finally, if you are so confident that fair-minded people will judge you fairly, why don't you tell us this. Do you tell people you know outside the clothing world about your site? Do your co-workers know? Friends? Family? Dates? Do you encourage them to take a look and see what it is all about? Are you confident that if they did, they would find nothing unsettling at all about it? That there is no risk they would think it reflects badly on you?

Now I will attempt to revert to my new policy of detente. Sorry for breaking it so soon. Your post was just too irresistable, and I am weak.

 

[grimslade]

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

Now, youre talking!

Btw, are they mocking you too?

Well adjusted, fair minded people judge me on my own behavior and that is the only viewpoint that ever concerned me.

The sycophant label originated over there, IIRC. I can't recall if I stumbled across it myself, or if someone brought it to my attention. That is, as far as I am aware, the only only time I've been mentioned. But maybe Nantucket Red can do a search. The irony of that bit of snark was that I was actually taking the piss at Manton. But your little crew of masters of sarcasm often seem under-attuned to the sarcasm and irony of others.

It's boring to repeat it, but how you choose to encourage, discourage or remain neutral as moderator of a site over which you have full control is your own behavior. If, for example, you didn't want a great deal of the energy devoted to your site expended on mocking the posts of others, you could simply say so. It would take just a handful of words. But not only have you not said, "Hey, let's talk about clothes, rather than spend so much time making fun of others on other sites!" You actually started the new, improved IPOTD thread yourself. Or is that not your behavior?

Again, if you think being Statler and Waldorf is something to aspire to, you're doing a great job. But normal, well-adjusted people are within their rights to find something unattractive in that.

 

[Film Noir Buff]

Originally Posted by grimslade

The sycophant label originated over there, IIRC. I can't recall if I stumbled across it myself, or if someone brought it to my attention. That is, as far as I am aware, the only only time I've been mentioned.
Actually the sycophant label was first aired by Kabbaz about anyone who liked what I had to say and then Manton started using it about me as well. The energy charge around that was that I needed followers and they didnt, Thus, the word sycophant became a source of irony. If they called you one, you were an unwitting victim. i dont know why you would keep that alive for so long. People who think their use of words are so clever shouldnt be so thin skinned over their deployment by others.

Originally Posted by grimslade

But maybe Nantucket Red can do a search. The irony of that bit of snark was that I was actually taking the piss at Manton. But your little crew of masters of sarcasm often seem under-attuned to the sarcasm and irony of others.
Whatever, do your own search. If makes you feel any better, I don't consider you a sycophant.

Originally Posted by grimslade

It's boring to repeat it, but how you choose to encourage, discourage or remain neutral as moderator of a site over which you have full control is your own behavior. If, for example, you didn't want a great deal of the energy devoted to your site expended on mocking the posts of others, you could simply say so. It would take just a handful of words. But not only have you not said, "Hey, let's talk about clothes, rather than spend so much time making fun of others on other sites!"
It is boring because you approach it from one set of rules for some and a different one for others. Now considering Im dealing with your value set here, SF is way rougher than FNB.com. And, there are a lot of people who consider the subject of your sycophanty to be a dishonest, spiteful, trivially calculating, judgmental lout. Do the mods here assume that mantle vicariously? I say they dont. Control freaks would beg to differ but they dont make policy, only demagoguery.

Originally Posted by grimslade

You actually started the new, improved IPOTD thread yourself. Or is that not your behavior?
Well if you knew the origins of IPOTD, youd be a little more sympathetic. That's right, it's popular and fun. Nothing's stopping you from posting on it and please dont cite attacking or making fun of people as a reason to not go there and stay here. Ive noticed that the absence of links on the shocking subject matter taking place on FNB is some sort of tactic to make it appear worse. That is good lurch in the direction of false light.

Originally Posted by grimslade

Again, if you think being Statler and Waldorf is something to aspire to, you're doing a great job.
Well give them their due, they aren't sycophants.

Originally Posted by grimslade

But normal, well-adjusted people are within their rights to find something unattractive in that.
I don't doubt that. But, from my observations of what shocks you in some cases and not others, i dont consider you one of those voices. I dont dislike you but I dont think you represent that.

 

[Manton]

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

Actually the sycophant label was first aired by Kabbaz about anyone who liked what I had to say and then Manton started using it about me as well.
Lie. Please cite some posts. You can't. You know why? Because I ignored you when all this started. I ignored you for years. I didn't call you any names. I didn't refer to you at all, not directly, not indirectly.

It is boring because you approach it from one set of rules for some and a different one for others. Now considering Im dealing with your value set here, SF is way rougher than FNB.com.

Hilarious. I think you honestly believe this.

SF maybe rougher for you personally, but that is because you don't own it, and the members here are not prevented from posting anywhere else should they so choose.

That's right, it's popular and fun. Nothing's stopping you from posting on it and please dont cite attacking or making fun of people as a reason to not go there and stay here.

Why not? Because it is an argument that you know you can't win?
Beyond this, I count at least 6 more

s in your post.

 

[grimslade]

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

Actually the sycophant label was first aired by Kabbaz about anyone who liked what I had to say and then Manton started using it about me as well. The energy charge around that was that I needed followers and they didnt, Thus, the word sycophant became a source of irony. If they called you one, you were an unwitting victim.

I'm not sure I follow any of this, but it doesn't matter because I was answering your question, as to whether I'd ever been mocked by the advanced crew. If there was some backstory to the word, so be it.

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

i dont know why you would keep that alive for so long. People who think their use of words are so clever shouldnt be so thin skinned over their deployment by others.

I think it's funny, and I'm not so thin-skinned as to let it bother me. I brought it up here because you asked a question, and that was the answer.

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

Whatever, do your own search. If makes you feel any better, I don't consider you a sycophant.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

It is boring because you approach it from one set of rules for some and a different one for others. Now considering Im dealing with your value set here, SF is way rougher than FNB.com. And, there are a lot of people who consider the subject of your sycophanty to be a dishonest, spiteful, trivially calculating, judgmental lout. Do the mods here assume that mantle vicariously?

The rules are different because your positions are different. Manton doesn't own this site and isn't a mod and doesn't control it. I suppose that those of your i-friends who agree with that judgment of Manton probably do think that of J and the crew. Personally, I think J does a good job over here, and the vibrancy of this site is a testament to that. Manton comes in for his share of abuse, as do you (and I and most of the regulars). The difference is, it is generally done out in the open, to the object's face.

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

Well if you knew the origins of IPOTD, youd be a little more sympathetic.

Do tell. Because from the outside, it looks petty, nasty and mean-spirited, not to say a bit obsessive.

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

That's right, it's popular and fun. Nothing's stopping you from posting on it and please dont cite attacking or making fun of people as a reason to not go there and stay here. Ive noticed that the absence of links on the shocking subject matter taking place on FNB is some sort of tactic to make it appear worse. That is good lurch in the direction of false light.

I'm not afraid of being attacked or mocked; don't worry. I just find the preoccupation over there with what's being said elsewhere--esp. AAAC--to be pretty dull stuff. I find AAAC pretty dull, honestly. The thought of spending my time chuckling about how dull others are is, well, deadly. But thanks for the invitation.

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

I don't doubt that. But, from my observations of what shocks you in some cases and not others, i dont consider you one of those voices. I dont dislike you but I dont think you represent that.

Again, the grammar here defeats me. I'm not normal and well-adjusted? Or I don't represent normal, well-adjusted people?

 

[Nantucket Red]

This running debate is happening on too many threads. Could we please consolidate?

Also, there seems to be a misconception that I have some sort of unique internet search superpowers. In fact, this is something at which I am singularly poor. I just happened to know exactly where to find an example of the "Raj" reference. This single instance seems to have cemented a reputation I, of all people, scarcely deserve.

 

[grimslade]

Originally Posted by Nantucket Red

This running debate is happening on too many threads. Could we please consolidate? Also, there seems to be a misconception that I have some sort of unique internet search superpowers. In fact, this is something at which I am singularly poor. I just happened to know exactly where to find an example of the "Raj" reference. This single instance seems to have cemented a reputation I, of all people, scarcely deserve.
You've been seized by the talons of propriety.

EDIT: I really didn't want you to search for anything. I was using you as a kind of literary device, a stand-in for the search expert. This has, alas, become your role, whether deserved or not.

 

[Nantucket Red]

Originally Posted by grimslade

You've been seized by the talons of propriety.

EDIT: I really didn't want you to search for anything. I was using you as a kind of literary device, a stand-in for the search expert. This has, alas, become your role, whether deserved or not.

Touche!

 

[Film Noir Buff]

Originally Posted by grimslade

\tQuote: \t \t \t\t \t\t\t \t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t\tOriginally Posted by Film Noir Buff \t\t\t\t\t \t\t\t\t \t\t\t\tIt is boring because you approach it from one set of rules for some and a different one for others. Now considering Im dealing with your value set here, SF is way rougher than FNB.com. And, there are a lot of people who consider the subject of your sycophanty to be a dishonest, spiteful, trivially calculating, judgmental lout. Do the mods here assume that mantle vicariously? \t\t\t \t\t \t \t The rules are different because your positions are different.
I was talking only about Mods.

Originally Posted by grimslade

Manton doesn't own this site and isn't a mod and doesn't control it.
And, as history has borne out, I would imagine it is fortunate for me he does not.

Originally Posted by grimslade

I suppose that those of your i-friends who agree with that judgment of Manton probably do think that of J and the crew.
No

Originally Posted by grimslade

Manton comes in for his share of abuse, as do you (and I and most of the regulars). The difference is, it is generally done out in the open, to the object's face.
If it isnt out in the open there, how do you know about it?

 

[Manton]

Originally Posted by Film Noir Buff

I was talking only about Mods.


And, as history has borne out, I would imagine it is fortunate for me he does not.

No






If it isnt out in the open there, how do you know about it?

x3.