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$50 challenge: prove to me that a god or gods exist!

mjHession

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Originally Posted by Jodum5
Impossible or faith wouldn't be necessary.
This sounds like a modern (evangelical) church statement, and isn't true. The Bible clearly states that the evidence for the existence of God is sufficient for the condemnation of man (see Paul, in Romans I think; will find vs. if anyone is interested). This is often referred to as General revelation, while the faith you are referring to is Special Revelation. Also you will find in the Psalms, a psalmist probably david but i'd have to look it up, the heavens (literally skies above) declare the glory of God, if His glory is declared it follows then that He exists. Faith is where we find salvation, but not the existence of God. James says that even demons recognize His existence, clearly though they do not have the faith you are referring too. Anyhow this thread is not about the above statement yet i felt the need for correction. Being a full time student (Bible student at Philadelphia Biblical University) I lack the time to make a sufficient argument (proof) right now. I will try to schedule some time for this between now and Nov. 1, if not i would love to revisit the topic at a later date, I am also a Mathematics student -- logic is my forte. For anyone that is interested I will provide some good starting sources; Josh Mcdowell's Evidence that demands a verdict Lee Strobel's The case for christ Guillermo Gonzalez and Jay W. Richards The Privileged Planet Unlocking the Mysteries of Life
 

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Originally Posted by lee_44106
Those are some gigantic thighs.
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And them boobies are not natural at all
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I................do not want.
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Then, you haz the ****.
 

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Originally Posted by Unbreakable
Pascal's Wager

Wow, I've never seen this one. Philosophy classes always use Descartes' or something.
I love Blaise, mostly for his triangle, but this is cool too.
 

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Originally Posted by Unbreakable
Pascal's Wager

Pascal's Wager isn't proof that there's a god; it's a justification for believing that there is one even without proof.

Anyhow, I've found proof. Please PM for payment information:

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Originally Posted by MrG
Pascal's Wager isn't proof that there's a god; it's a justification for believing that there is one even without proof.

Ya. This.

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Originally Posted by MrG
Pascal's Wager isn't proof that there's a god; it's a justification for believing that there is one even without proof.

I know, but it kinda states that there is no proving either there is or isnt. So the whole idea is moot really
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Originally Posted by Unbreakable
Pascal's Wager

Pascal's Wager is fail once you consider that there are 1000s of gods available and picking the right one has poor odds.

Plus some of them won't punish you for being a good atheist but will punish you for being an infidel.
 

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Originally Posted by Unbreakable
I know, but it kinda states that there is no proving either there is or isnt. So the whole idea is moot really
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how does it state there is no proving there is or is not?

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Something that is beyong the mind cannot be comprehended by the mind. That is why science hasn't been able to comprehend divinity. Science is great at describing the way the physical universe acts, but that's where it's limitations lie. Spirituality, on the other hand, is that which is beyond the mind, that which cannot be comprehended, only intuited.

Science talks about the big bang and how it was all energy in the beginning. That energy is divinity, that which permeates the entire cosmos. The source and sustenance of everything is the divine. Only the divine can create.
 

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Just wait until you die, and all your questions will be answered.

Who knows, depending on how you live your life, you might find out if the devil exists as well.
 

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Originally Posted by teddieriley
Just wait until you die, and all your questions will be answered.

Who knows, depending on how you live your life, you might find out if the devil exists as well.


+1

i say to all here, God exists. fully so. I won't get into it here as it is not worth it. internet is the wrong place to discuss religion and/or spirituality.

and even if i can prove it i dont care for your 50 bux. i would want you to just believe in there is a God that would be all the more worth it. nuff said by me
 

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