Thanks for the many options to check out.
Went to yet another store. A nice but single location store call Kilgore Trout. Their inhouse brands are Coppley, Samuelson, Isia, Canali and Zegna. Much of what they had in stock was super super light and comfortable. Like wearing a shirt more than a jacket to the point of feeling like they should be summer suits but I was told they are intended as year round. Most of it was half canvased but some full. Most was also either no lining or just the butterfly lining, making it even lighter. Price for Coppley and Samuelson was the same range of 1200-1700 or 1700-2500 MTM. Canali was more $1700 plus RTW and Zegna $2500 plus. Not sure I'm ready for those price points but it was a huge difference. Samuelson has a trunk show next weekend I'll go check out. There was this Zenga flannel suit that was made to machine wash (though I wouldn't try that) that was amazingly comfortable. At $2000+ I'm not sure I'd spring for a seasonal flannel, but it sure was nice. Also, almost all of their RTW were setup for surgeon's cuffs with buttons to be added once the sleave lengths were set. I thought that was pretty cool.
My questions then are (a) what is the down side to the ultra light, little or no lining suits? (b) looking at online shops including online MTM, how do you know the feel, weight, comfort before you get it home? The Coppley suit I've been looking at previously is lighter than my old stuff, but it still feels more like my old stuff than the Canali and Zegna jackets I just tried on.
Went to yet another store. A nice but single location store call Kilgore Trout. Their inhouse brands are Coppley, Samuelson, Isia, Canali and Zegna. Much of what they had in stock was super super light and comfortable. Like wearing a shirt more than a jacket to the point of feeling like they should be summer suits but I was told they are intended as year round. Most of it was half canvased but some full. Most was also either no lining or just the butterfly lining, making it even lighter. Price for Coppley and Samuelson was the same range of 1200-1700 or 1700-2500 MTM. Canali was more $1700 plus RTW and Zegna $2500 plus. Not sure I'm ready for those price points but it was a huge difference. Samuelson has a trunk show next weekend I'll go check out. There was this Zenga flannel suit that was made to machine wash (though I wouldn't try that) that was amazingly comfortable. At $2000+ I'm not sure I'd spring for a seasonal flannel, but it sure was nice. Also, almost all of their RTW were setup for surgeon's cuffs with buttons to be added once the sleave lengths were set. I thought that was pretty cool.
My questions then are (a) what is the down side to the ultra light, little or no lining suits? (b) looking at online shops including online MTM, how do you know the feel, weight, comfort before you get it home? The Coppley suit I've been looking at previously is lighter than my old stuff, but it still feels more like my old stuff than the Canali and Zegna jackets I just tried on.