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I got 10% off my BLNR from an AD and bought it in the EU so got it ex-VAT.Even as recently as the earlier 2000's you could still get a 10% discount on steel Rolexes and 30-35% off Pateks, VCs, IWC etc.
Speaking of Rolex, Guys (if you had one) which model was your first Rolex, and what memories are associated with it ?
My first Rolex from the AD was the first gen ceramic GMT 116710LN in 2008. It was released in 07 as the first SS sports watch with ceramic bezel. Even got a 10% discount in a small mom & pop mall store in upstate NY while traveling for business. Same model was impossible to find in bigger cities.Speaking of Rolex, Guys (if you had one) which model was your first Rolex, and what memories are associated with it ?
any reason you prefer the 14060 over the 124060?No wrong choice here. Sounds like the NDS fits better in your rotation. Classic. Get the 14060!
(My first Rolex was a DJ. My second was a 14060)
I've heard the jubilee bracelets, while a hallmark of Rolex, are less durable than the oysters. Any truth to that?I have a 114060, bought to coincide with my son’s birth. I am contemplating adding a DJ, reverso, or tank.
That said, I don’t think the reverso and DJ would necessarily be redundant. The DJ is so much more robust than a reverso. It really is more of a sport watch than a dress watch, despite the normal connotations and obvious blingy-ness. Like, I would wear a reverso when I gave my kid a bath, but I wouldn’t hesitate to wear a DJ.
I find 5-digit subs more true to the sub vibe in general - less blingy, more tool oriented, and simultaneously more whimsical and elegant (smaller indices, better case and bezel proportions, etc...). Ironically, the 124060 is a more capable, robust watch, but just less charming for me.any reason you prefer the 14060 over the 124060?
When I bought my BLNR in January 2015 from an AD, you could still get 10% most models, like a Polar Explorer II or Sub ND at a few dealers. However, I couldn't get a discount on the BLNR as it was still a relatively new and popular model.I got 10% off my BLNR from an AD and bought it in the EU so got it ex-VAT.
keep going back and forth between a current 226570 or a 5 digit 16570 which are easily found in good condition.
I've heard the jubilee bracelets, while a hallmark of Rolex, are less durable than the oysters. Any truth to that?
I would just say, the larger indices are probably truer to the original Sub vibe, and maybe a tad more tool like by improving visibility. The original Subs had big hour markers - they only got smaller in the 1980s. - but that's just a small difference of opinion.I find 5-digit subs more true to the sub vibe in general - less blingy, more tool oriented, and simultaneously more whimsical and elegant (smaller indices, better case and bezel proportions, etc...). Ironically, the 124060 is a more capable, robust watch, but just less charming for me.
I love my 6-digit GMT, though!
I purchased it around the same time, maybe a few months earlier or later. I don't have your eidetic memory for all things watch-related. I recall that I struck out trying to buy it locally at a few places (with very little effort) so decided to call an overseas dealer in an EU capital where I happened to have friends in town. A bit of serendipity.When I bought my BLNR in January 2015 from an AD, you could still get 10% most models, like a Polar Explorer II or Sub ND at a few dealers. However, I couldn't get a discount on the BLNR as it was still a relatively new and popular model.
I think I bought mine a little before one had to establish a relationship with an AD unless you wanted a steel Daytona. With my BLNR, I called a few local AD, most didn't have one. The one place I called where a friend had referred me, didn't have one, but they offered me 10% off on a polar 216570 or a Submariner they had in stock. I finally called a place I had never dealt with and they had a BLNR, so I went there the next day and bought it.I purchased it around the same time, maybe a few months earlier or later. I don't have your eidetic memory for all things watch-related. I recall that I struck out trying to buy it locally at a few places (with very little effort) so decided to call an overseas dealer in an EU capital where I happened to have friends in town. A bit of serendipity.
It was a great outcome for me because I didn't have to deal with any ADs or establish "relationships" and my friends said they had a great experience picking it up.
A lot of the reason I pretty much refuse to go to watch stores is because of that initial experience. I ended up getting my Explorer through this forum and my Nomos and moonwatch from a dealer in Germany. The only time I've spent in a watch store in the last decade was with a buddy in NY last year who was ready to purchase so it didn't feel like a chore for me.
Thanks Dino. Excellent food for thought as always. I have to admit I was leaning towards the 16570 due in large part to nostalgia but you have me re-considering the newer 42mm version again. As a fellow 50+ year old dude, superior legibility is always a plus. The difference in the bracelet and stamped metal clasp is not insignificant and I much prefer the newer bracelets to those of old. 70 hour power reserve is also a nice improvement.Both versions of the Explorer II are great. I have black dial versions of the the 216570 (the previous model but the look nearly the same) and a 16570. As mentioned in a previous post 5 digit Rolex watches have a certain charm, and classic good looks. It's served me well for nearly 23 years. I can't complain about it at all.
The modern ones have much nicer bracelets and clasps. Of course the 226570 is larger, but still very wearable, and I have to admit as you get past age 50, the larger hands and hour markers do make telling time at a glance so much easier. I bought my 216570 on a whim in 2019, because it was the only sports model in the case when Lux Bond & Green still had a store on Boylston Street. Someone who had ordered one, it arrived and they decided not to buy it so they stuck it in the case. I used to think of it as just a watch cashing in on the retro orange hand of the vintage 1655. However, it really stands on it own as a better looking, and far more useful watch than it's great grandfather, as it has a more legible dial, independently adjustable hour hand, modern practicality, and better build quality. Back when the 1655 could still be purchased new in the early 80's when I was shopping for a GMT, I just thought it was weird and ugly. Now, I think its a fun retro piece, but not worth 30K+. I ended up liking my 216570 so much more than I expected it to.
You're welcome. I'd definitely suggest trying both on to see which is really the best fit for you. I checked EWC's website and they don't have a polar 16570 right now. I'd certainly be happy to meet up with you and let you try on both of mine, but I know you want the white dial, and I think the brightness of the white dial really compared to the black dial makes the watch look very different on the wrist, and could affect your thoughts on which one to go for be it the 226570 or the 16570. Wishing you luck with whichever model you eventually decide is right for you.Thanks Dino. Excellent food for thought as always. I have to admit I was leaning towards the 16570 due in large part to nostalgia but you have me re-considering the newer 42mm version again. As a fellow 50+ year old dude, superior legibility is always a plus. The difference in the bracelet and stamped metal clasp is not insignificant and I much prefer the newer bracelets to those of old. 70 hour power reserve is also a nice improvement.